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Old 12-18-2013, 10:29 AM   #1
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Really dumb question

Ok so I have been given a manual by FR on the artic pak system and learned that it should not be turned on while plugged in to shore power. And it should not be turned on when there is no liquid in the tanks. We always empty all tanks when we expect to have freezing weather (MS). In my old motor home I just turned the ice maker off and left the fridge "on" and never ran any heat at night. Now I'm talking about when the unit is parked, plugged up in my yard on its pad. I keep my fridge stocked. With this new unit and with this residential fridge I seemed to have list my footing. I have been trying to keep heat on in the unit in cold weather, the ice maker is off but the fridge is on. All holding tanks are empty and no water is hooked up (although we do not blow air thru the tanks). Do I really need to heat the unit under these circumstances? Will the fridge be damaged in the cold environment?
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:24 AM   #2
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Where are you located? What is the forecast? High and lows.
I tried to find one question in your thread.

I think you asked....
1. Can I have the ArticPak on while plugged into shore power when tanks are empty?
If tanks are empty you shouldn't have to turn in on.
If you have your water system empty I would not turn the Artic Pak on.

2. Do I need to heat the interior while the refrigerator on?
It all depends if you get really low temps for long periods of time. 2-3 days or more.
If it is that cold yet. You should have a small heater to keep interior 40-45 degrees.

Hope this helps you.
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:46 AM   #3
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Yes, any info is helpful. We live in south central Mississippi. Usually our temps are mostly moderate (close to freezing but not quite there). But this month has been exceptionally cold for nights on end. So I will adjust my behavior, turn the artic pak off. And I'll turn on a 1500 watt ceremic heater if the temp is supposed to get to 32 or below. Otherwise I'm good to go. We women live to worry - especially about a new very expensive toy.
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:05 PM   #4
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For what its worth if the Res.Refer.has a Icemaker the inlet valve on the back and the supply hose to it, must be protected from (Freezing).Some icemaker valves drain when the supply hose is drained,but not (ALL). Call the MFG.service center for proper info! Youroo!!
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Old 12-19-2013, 01:19 AM   #5
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When you are not using your rig drain and then blow out the lines with an air compressor. CW has an adaptor to connect a compressed air quick connect line to the pressurized water hose connection inlet. After you are done, pressurize the lines again and turn on the chilled water in the door until the air come out followed by cycling the ice cube maker till air comes out there too. Don't forget the toilet.
There are other things that we need to do up north here in Jersey but this should be just fine in your place (By valor and arms).
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:52 AM   #6
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I still don't see why you can't have the artic heaters on while on shore power. I'd have to dig into it, but I'm assuming that they run off of the house batteries which are maintained by the charger which is supplied 110ac from either shore or generator. It's kind of like when I was told by the salesman to never run the generator when hooked up with shore power. Now, that's true if your coach doesn't have an automatic switch...like ours does.

I can understand the statement on not to run the artic pack without liquids...sort off. I know it's bad on an electric water heater because the elements will self destruct without water....but the arctic pack consists of a number of heating blankets and IMO doesn't matter.

What the manual you receive says just doesn't make sense...but ya never know.
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Old 12-19-2013, 08:36 AM   #7
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Without liquid, I'm guessing, there is the possibility of overheating the tank and/or pad. The tank composite material may not handle the heat and warp. Again, just guessing.
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Without liquid, I'm guessing, there is the possibility of overheating the tank and/or pad. The tank composite material may not handle the heat and warp. Again, just guessing.
If the tanks are empty is there a real reason for using the Artic package?
Does it heat the water lines?
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Old 12-19-2013, 10:54 PM   #9
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The Arctic Pack on my rig, had I not disconnected the POS, would draw 28 amps (4 heaters at 7 amps each) from the 12V system to heat up the sewage to 64 degrees. There's no way to adjust the thermostats.

There's also no intelligence in the system to tell whether the tanks have anything in them. I was very concerned about 84 Watts in a relatively small area of a plastic tank melting through and wrecking the tank.

IMO, it's one of the dumbest systems ever foisted on the RV community.
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:21 AM   #10
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he arctic packs are designed for cold weather use (not storage) so your tanks and line do not freeze. No water in the poly tanks and the heaters will melt and deform the tanks. It has to be a simple system so we don't pay much and it work w/o breaking. Long term storage of water in the line (stagnant) is asking for mold and material growth issues.
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