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Old 07-21-2011, 08:02 PM   #1
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Well, 2,200 miles in new 2011 Georgetown 360. I recommend that you do not pack very much, as my DW hung 4 pair of blue jeans, 3 ladies shorts, size 4 and 10 cotton polyester shirts in the closet from the over head hanging rack. Our first stop in northern VA, went to closet for shirt and rack had pulled out of celing and all clothes lying in a pile, rack was bent and of course screws could not be reinserted as they had pull thru the thin luan over head above the padded ceiling. follow this up with the towel rack in bath that pulled loose from wall, pulling towel off rack. Now lets add a screw stripping out of ornate metal art work screwed to same paper thin wall. FR uses 1 in screws to attach items to a wall that is 1/8th thick at most. I will be putting in to the shop as I return home tomorrow, but has anyone else found how cheap these units are assembled? Seriously, this is a beautiful coach, but as saying goes, beauty is only skin deep. To give the devil his due, the rest of the coach is pretty decent. Really impressed with Bilstein shocks and the running of the Ford V-10, so far climbing mountains from NC to Vermont, and back to current Fayetteville, NC, averaging 8.1 MPG for 2200 miles towing 2001 Saturn SL-1. Would like to hear about how these items handled by FR if reported. BTW a screw came out of the table leg too and is striped like other, the wood is pressed board, not even decent plywood.
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:51 PM   #2
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Sadly, we only get what we pay for. If we were willing to pay twice as much for our units, they would probably be built a lot better. Of course, they would also be a lot heavier, so our gas mileage would suffer.
One thing though, we have to be careful what we do, as evidenced by your closet rack issue. If we treat them like they are ready to fall apart (because they are!), the problems should be minimal.
Bottom line, I'm willing to live with it. I wanted a reasonably-priced and lightweight unit, so I knew there would be compromises.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:16 PM   #3
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Over time, you, like many of us, will have replaced all/most of the screws with expanding panel mollies, like these: Crown Bolt Zinc Plated #6-32 x 1 in. Hollow Wall Anchor with Truss Head Combo Drive Screw - 00469 at The Home Depot.

They are actually quite strong, and I've used them in a number of different applications.
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:12 AM   #4
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Over time, you, like many of us, will have replaced all/most of the screws with expanding panel mollies, like these: Crown Bolt Zinc Plated #6-32 x 1 in. Hollow Wall Anchor with Truss Head Combo Drive Screw - 00469 at The Home Depot.

They are actually quite strong, and I've used them in a number of different applications.
Same here, Don't leave home wthout them! Our closet hanger angle I'll call it actually was secured to the framing behind the luan. However they only had 2 screws in the entire angle, 1 at each end. I just added 4 more from the collection of screws I've found when the drawer bracket broke and I pulled out the drawer to replace the plastic rail holder. In my case I pop riveted the drawer rails to angle I ran from the floor to bottom of the TV opening. They aren't going anywhere now.
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Old 07-22-2011, 07:22 AM   #5
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BTW a screw came out of the table leg too and is striped like other, the wood is pressed board, not even decent plywood.
I had a similar problem. I removed the table, dug out all of the loose material. Took a small drill bit and drilled a couple holes at an angle within the hole. Mixed up a two part epoxy and poured it in the hole, pressed it so it went into all of the holes. Waited an hour, drilled a new screw hole and reassembled. It's been good for more than 4 years now.
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:13 AM   #6
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the wood is pressed board, not even decent plywood.
I feel your pain and don't blame you for being upset.
IF you are an RVer it really helps to be a handyperson as well!!
FR should be able to install the closet shelf so it stays there.

As to the pressed board--- I don't like it either but a couple things to
consider- pressed board is heavy and if it gets wet internally it can literally
fall into a pile of sawdust BUT it is FLAT.
Plywood almost always will warp or have some curve in it.
If you want a flat table it's gotta be something like pressed board or
"solid surface" counter top material.

Moly bolts are great once you get them installed but do be careful and
get absolutely the shortest ones you can! I poked a couple tiny holes
thru the rear skin on my trailer when I was hanging a shelf in the bathroom
using moly bolts.
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:19 AM   #7
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We have a 2011 G'town 280DS and haven't experienced any of your problems. yet. I do have quite a bit of stuff hanging in both closets and so far so good but I'm going to have DH double check the support & screws.

Our mileage isn't quite as good as yours though. We were getting just over 7 but that was with the dash A/C and bouncing down the interstate at 65mph (not ME that was driving). Once DH figured out the low mileage, he dropped to 60 which made for a much more pleasant ride and coupled with the roof A/C instead of the dash, we managed just over 7.8mpg even with the gen running. We just turned over 1000 miles though and hope that as the engine breaks in more, we'll gain some mileage.

Fire Instructor> thanks for the tip & link! Those have been added to the shopping list.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:40 AM   #8
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It helps to have a DH that is very handy. We wouldn't drag our TT back to the dealer for a few loose screws, towel bars, etc. DH would fix them up better than new in a heartbeat and we wouldn't have to spend 2+ hours on the road and the wait time to get them fixed. That's why we travel with a huge toolbox!! We were fully aware of the quality issues before we bought our TT, and knew we'd have to deal with issues popping up now and then.
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:18 AM   #9
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Ya it's to be expected. Travel with a toolbox for the little things. I had the same problem with the table screws and I replaced them all with a little bit larger screws, drill and put some 15 min. epoxy in each hole before installing the new screws. Mine have held up for over a year now.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:50 AM   #10
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Wow, we have an '05 Georgetown (used) and have spent 2 months in FL with every closet position filled with no failures. I sure will check how secure things are, though...

Just got back from a 1500 mile tour of Michigan (towing) and ran the dash air as well as the Gen for much of the time and got in the low 7's. I do not exceed 62 MPH unless it's downhill. Much of my travel is closer to 55.

I agree these things are made of thin material and a little better thought by the Mfgr could increase quality. I am forever finding screws on the floor that came from somewhere. I am sure something will eventually fall off the wall.

Overall, we are pretty happy with out Forest River...

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