Side cameras on Georgetown 378

Falcon35 · 08-13-2012, 07:00 PM

I have a strange problem with our rear view cameras only when my head lights are on. When I turn on the right signal it turns on the right camera but when I turn the signal of lt don't go back to the center camera. When I turn on the left signal the display flashes with the signal. With the head lights of. Every thing is back as it should be.

cfsoistman · 08-14-2012, 06:18 AM

Did it function properly before? Sounds like a couple wires are crossed. In or out of warranty? Looks like you will need to contact the dealer unless you can get a wiring diagram from the manufacturer and straighten out the wiring.

VinceU · 08-14-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon35

I have a strange problem with our rear view cameras only when my head lights are on. When I turn on the right signal it turns on the right camera but when I turn the signal of lt don't go back to the center camera. When I turn on the left signal the display flashes with the signal. With the head lights of. Every thing is back as it should be.

My camera system is Perimeter View not the more popular one.
I had someting very similar happen in the spring of this year. I was driving home home after a recall appt. with Ford. It rained buckets for a few minutes and suddenly my cameras well BS. The main and both sides appeared foggy and which ever sighnal I used became "stuck". I was able to cancel them by going the other side,but it would stick some of the time also. Finally it stuck left and stayed there. I have no drawings of how it's built. I washome in a few minutes and studied the pattern. Sometimes it would correct after a delay. With nothing better to do, I climbed up the rear ladder with towel and hair dryer in hand. That was the last place to have a cause due to the rain. SOB I towel dried the camera and just barely warmed it up. (sensitive electronics). Back to dash and all was well!

Not to say this is the same problem for you, what I am saying is didn't take much of a circuit malady to bring the system down.

In the case of the headlight symtom, the headlights do not power across the switch you operatee. In fact they are powered by a larger switch called the headlight relay. This mayb be mounted behind the dash near the center HVAC/radio/camera controls. I'm not sure its location but it's backthere somewhere. I can see if the camera sys and the headlight sys share a common ground via a busbar or stud or whatever. In the event of a loose or corroded connecton the heavier loaded HL circuit coulod interfere with the camera. Without dwgs. we can only guess but with the the box outside some of these theories can be proven/disproven.

I would start with the Wiring possible to locate the ground wiring from camera sys and headlight relay.Also check the fused power supplies tothe camera sys and the headling system. Headlight system probably located on Ford chassis fuse supply left side of footwell. Camera not sure but probably a auxilliary panel also powered by Ford panel.
Side cameras, easy to pop the cover and check for moisture, rear camper I didn't open, just warmed/

This is a tough one, thats why all the response!

Falcon35 · 08-14-2012, 02:48 PM

Thank's VinceU,
I think it must be a ground as well.
I will wait until I get home and try and check a few things.
I'm only driving in the day time and as long as it doesn't rain we will be OK.
It also goes right back to the centre camera if I push the M button on the display.

copsuno · 08-16-2012, 06:19 AM

For what its worth, my 2011 360xl does the same as yours, I keep forgetting to have dealer check it. I have to tap the the rotation button on system to put it back in order. I drive with rear cam on to observe by toad. Let me know what you find.

Trempert · 08-16-2012, 08:12 PM

I have the same problem from time to time where the camera will get "stuck" in the right or left view. I can press the button on the screen to rotate through the views and then all is fine. It has happened about a half dozen times. The dealer checked it out but could find nothing wrong. If it gets worse or gets "stuck" permanently I'm hoping they cover it under warranty since I had the problem documented prior to the warranty being up.

VinceU · 08-16-2012, 08:16 PM

His is weird though, only with headlights and is always with headlights.

Falcon35 · 08-17-2012, 09:08 PM

We are home now and I have not had time to check things out.
Now it is not switching to the right side at all when the lights are on.
It still rotates through all of them when I turn on the left signal.
When I turn the head lights of everything works as it should.

DRPNGOUT · 08-27-2012, 06:15 PM

Me too exactly in my 2011 360.

Iggy · 08-27-2012, 06:48 PM

Don't have a solution but have the following documents with some basic wiring information.

Check page 15 in the 2nd document CM709m1 which shows the wiring at the dasj of the 3 cameras.
I would also check the ground to the main control panel as it sounds like it may be loose connection.

It looks like the DC Jack to the main panel has the only + and - for the whole system. I would see where it gets its ground from first before you rip things apart. See it on picture diagram.

Falcon35 · 09-05-2012, 03:53 PM

IT'S Fixed !
We replaced the bulb in the right signal light and that fixed the signal, cameras and display.
The bulb did not even look burned out.

kenandterry · 09-05-2012, 09:26 PM

Which turn signal bulb did you replace? Was it not working at all??????

There's the round one that faces directly forward below the headlight assembly and then there's the smaller turn signal light incorporated in the headlight assembly sort of angled forward and to the side.

VinceU · 09-06-2012, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon35

IT'S Fixed !
We replaced the bulb in the right signal light and that fixed the signal, cameras and display.
The bulb did not even look burned out.

Good find! Maybe was wrong bulb trick camera select with high/low current draw?

Falcon35 · 09-06-2012, 09:22 AM

Kenandterry: It was the forward facing light. I'm not at the coach but I think our Canadian units with daytime running light may be different.
When I first emailed John Armstrong he had me take out the bulbs in the side marker lights and if that fixed they would have to be replaced. When that didn't work he told me to try adding a ground. I was not sure where to add that so I took it to a mechanic that I trust and they replaced the bulb and it fixed everything.

Iggy · 09-06-2012, 06:18 PM

Falcon35

I don't think the lights are any different on Canadian Georgetowns.
Here is my unit. Which light caused all the problems

Falcon35 · 09-07-2012, 05:09 PM

Iggy:

Our Georgetown is an early 2012 and has the same front cap as the 2011.
We have two clear lights side by side, the outside one is day time running lights and low beam. The one next to it is high beam. Around the corner from those there are amber marker lights that are also act as signal lights. Below that are round amber lights those are the signal lights.They have a large two filament bulb. Low on the front cap fog lights.

martin73 · 09-13-2012, 03:14 PM

To Falcon35, from Martin73. About your turn 7 back-up cameras..My fr337 2010. did the samething.. the mech. said its the front lights, they get rattled around quite a bit.. he twisted the front lights back in their sockets,, the cameras worked fine? just thought I wo0uld let you know.

Falcon35 · 09-13-2012, 03:38 PM

Thank You: martin73:
It appears that any one having camera problems needs to start by checking all the front lights.

Trempert · 09-17-2012, 06:13 PM

My right camera just broke!! All I get is a white screen when I shift to the right camera. Does anyone know if this is just a loose wire or is the camera bad? Thanks.

n1joh · 09-17-2012, 06:59 PM

does the monotor say no signal or is it just blank. when mine went the monotor would not show any picture at all. then they would work then go out again.

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