View Poll Results: Portable or Hardwired?
Portable - EMS-PT50C 22 47.83%
Hardwired - EMS-HW50C 24 52.17%
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:12 AM   #21
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A fellow camper had problems with the 50 Amp external protector. Another camper, an electrician in the past, tore it apart and found water in various spots inside and a soaked sponge. He got it dried out and resealed and works like used. I've decided that plastic covers work fine. In the future when mine goes bad I will opt for the built in and when I win the lottery, will add the voltage regulator.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:24 AM   #22
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Just posted this in another thread:

Was talking to a friend yesterday about doing the hardwired version. He proceeded to show me his portable one, it was melted due to a bad pedestal he said if had a hardwired one it would have fried everything up to the protector. After seeing that I think I will go with a portable.

Is he wrong?
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:35 AM   #23
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If I had a good spot to mount a permanent surge protector I probably would have done so. It happens that my TT has no cabinet near the power connection on the trailer, so I ordered the 30 Portable, and love it.

I have found that due to varying mast configurations and sockets that I would sometimes have trouble maintaining a connection at the mast. Due to the weight of the unit it actually fell out a couple of times. Up here often you have to share the mast with another camper unit, and the water supply is at the mast, so you may not have control over what is happening to the protector at all times.

My power inlet on the TT is right at the left rear corner, so I chain and padlock the protector to the rear bumper, then just run an extension from the mast to the protector. I know I'm running an extra 25' of cable, but so far no problems, and the unit is farther away from prying eyes. Only takes a minute, and no hassle trying to make everything fit. Keeps it dry, safe, and out of the way.
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Old 09-04-2014, 10:42 AM   #24
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Just posted this in another thread:

Was talking to a friend yesterday about doing the hardwired version. He proceeded to show me his portable one, it was melted due to a bad pedestal he said if had a hardwired one it would have fried everything up to the protector. After seeing that I think I will go with a portable.

Is he wrong?
It was "hot" "melted" because of a bad connection.
It wouldn't have mattered if you had a portable , hardwired or nothing!

Did his surge guard protect against low voltage?

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Old 09-04-2014, 10:55 AM   #25
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It was "hot" "melted" because of a bad connection.
It wouldn't have mattered if you had a portable , hardwired or nothing!

Did his surge guard protect against low voltage?

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It was a Progressive Industries PT30C 30 Amp Portable Electrical Management System. If it was hardwired wouldn't have fried the service up to the protector? I would rather hardwire the Progressive Industries EMSHW50C but, after hearing his story I would be concerned about damage. I am not Mr. Wizard on this kinda stuff I am just looking for input. I plan on keeping my rig for a while so I have no problem with a permanent installation.
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Old 09-04-2014, 11:07 AM   #26
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It was a Progressive Industries PT30C 30 Amp Portable Electrical Management System. If it was hardwired wouldn't have fried the service up to the protector? I would rather hardwire the Progressive Industries EMSHW50C but, after hearing his story I would be concerned about damage. I am not Mr. Wizard on this kinda stuff I am just looking for input. I plan on keeping my rig for a while so I have no problem with a permanent installation.
If there was an issue voltage wise the unit would have shut down.

It almost had to be a bad connection.

If the connection was that bad it wouldn't have mattered if he had a surge protector or not.

Maybe someone else has and idea.

From what I understand it may have had high resistance causing high amps and heat.
It just doesn't seem right that the only damage was done in that short distance to the ems portable.



did the ems shut power off?



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Old 09-04-2014, 11:10 AM   #27
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If there was an issue voltage wise the unit would have shut down.

It almost had to be a bad connection.

If the connection was that bad it wouldn't have mattered if he had a surge protector or not.

Maybe someone else has and idea.

From what I understand it may have had high resistance causing high amps and heat.
It just doesn't seem right that the only damage was done in that short distance to the ems portable.



did the ems shut power off?



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I am not sure if he was even hooked up to his rig. If I remember correctly and that is not a sure thing I think it happened as soon as he plugged it in. I will talk to him and get back to you.
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Old 09-04-2014, 11:11 AM   #28
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I am not sure if he was even hooked up to his rig. I will talk to him and get back to you.
Sounds good.

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Old 09-05-2014, 01:22 PM   #29
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Sounds good.

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OK so I talked with him. He said he was hooked up for about 6 hours when the surge occurred. I asked him If the pigtail from the Pedestal to protector was fried he said no just the protector so I guess it would be safe to hardwire one inside but, what do I know?
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Old 09-05-2014, 01:56 PM   #30
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Come on dude. If you have 1 oz. of ability you can hardwire the EMS. You don't need a poll to make you decide. It's what your gut tells you what the best is in your situation. If you know what end of a hammer to use, go for it.
Here's a freebie for you.....there are the cheapest by far for EMS. I bought one.
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That is the cheapest I have ever saw. You are correct....
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