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Old 02-25-2016, 03:28 PM   #41
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I must say first that a liberty to be towed all wheels down has to be a 4x4.. Also the Liberty replacement ( 2011 was the last year) is the Patriot and it is all wheel drive so you need a trailer for it.. I really think Jeep made a mistake going to this set up.. Lots of folks out there towing older Libertys
X2 - we were REALLY interested in a Renegade as a TOAD. Guess what? It is NOT flat towable either!
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X2 - we were REALLY interested in a Renegade as a TOAD. Guess what? It is NOT flat towable either!
Dolly.. Remove the rear drive shaft...
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Kenny must be covered in mud and grease with all the driveshafts he removes.
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Dolly.. Remove the rear drive shaft...
I think if I wanted the vehicle that bad I'd be just getting a trailer if it could not be flat towed or dollied... I've changed the joints in my drive shafts a few times on my Jeep and it was a pain in the butt.. Definitely not going to be going and doing that while on vacation!
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I must say first that a liberty to be towed all wheels down has to be a 4x4.. Also the Liberty replacement ( 2011 was the last year) is the Patriot and it is all wheel drive so you need a trailer for it.. I really think Jeep made a mistake going to this set up.. Lots of folks out there towing older Libertys
I agree, I have always looked to the Jeep as the best all around toad.. Look cool, fun to drive, gives you 4x4 or AWD if needed... Sure they are not as cheap as driving a smaller car but man are they fun to drop the top!
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I think if I wanted the vehicle that bad I'd be just getting a trailer if it could not be flat towed or dollied... I've changed the joints in my drive shafts a few times on my Jeep and it was a pain in the butt.. Definitely not going to be going and doing that while on vacation!

It's not that bad. It's four bolts.
Make a j hanger and hang the driveshaft.

I'm not saying it's a great option...
But, if flat tow wasn't possible, it would be better than a trailer.


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This boy is stuck on removing driveshafts. Lol.
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Kenny must be covered in mud and grease with all the driveshafts he removes.
I have no dog in this fight, but I actually know a guy who owns a motorhome and flat tows his Toyota FJ. He DOES disconnect the drive shaft every time and says that it isn't a big deal. They're a fulltime family and move often.
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Unrelated but related.. In a parallel thread here about whether to even have a TOAD.. Someone brought up the point of being able to back up with a trailer and a dolly. I have always heard that you cannot back up with a flat tow set up (I'm sure an expert will tell me why) but you can with a trailer. I do not see why you could not with a dolly either, though I never had one. I do not know about you but I know I've ended up in a smaller than expected spots while fueling and not being able to back up could stink...
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I have removed many driveshafts. It isn't that big a deal but I would not want to do the job every time we moved. Sometimes it's raining and cold. I complain about just hooking up the toad. There are so many cars and trucks that are so easy to tow it's just bad advice to suggest anyone do this. I know a couple of people with the DS disconnects and they work ok. Still not the preferred way to do it.
On my Lincoln MKX I hook it up and put it in neutral and off we go. I even traded my Wrangler for it as we need more room and a better ride. The MKX is as easy as the Wrangler was.
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