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Old 12-06-2014, 03:40 PM   #1
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Black fly season in Ontario?

Thinking about camping at either Murphys Point Provincial Park or Charleston Lake Provincial Park in Ontario this June Iím looking at either the week of the 7th or the 14th. Is anyone familiar with these parks Iím most concerned about how bad the black flies will be as Iím taking the dog and hope to do some kayaking with him, donít want the poor guy to be miserable the whole time. If youíve camped at either park any info would be appreciated I hear good things about both but also heard Murphys Point is not dog friendly. Its not that I let my dogs run loose, bother other campers or allow barking but if there are too many restrictions on dogs its best to just find another park.
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:21 PM   #2
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Charleston Park is a great place to camp. There are many bays and inlet to explore on Charleston Lake. It is also a great fishing area. You will also find a lot of walking trails. The park can be busy and you should reserve your site as soon as you can.
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Old 12-06-2014, 08:42 PM   #3
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We left Bon Echo north of Charleston Lake in June this year, Black-flies and Mosquitoes where heavy and biting. We went to near Lake Huron where we know the breeze keeps them down, Neighbours were at Sandbanks the same week and had the same bugs.
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Old 12-07-2014, 12:40 PM   #5
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Black flies

Early June is such a peaceful time to camp not many people are there during the week suppose its luck of the draw and mercy of the weather. Iíve been at Silent Lake in early June and not had any issue with black flies or mosquitoes. Iíve also camped at Haliburton Wildlife Reserve in early June and been eaten alive by black flies. Last year I camped at Turkey Point in early June and my A Frame was invaded by large black ants lots of them covered the ceiling and I donít store food or cook in my camper. They were everywhere even in the comfort stations and showers. Ticks were also an issue for the dog. Keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best, oh well it always an adventure. Would like to hear from anyone who has camped at Murphys Point Provincial Park sounds like an interesting area.
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:15 PM   #6
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Ticks are becoming more & more of an issue. Our vet gave our Border Collie an injection for lymes this year and although picked up tick no adverse effect. Blackfly can be very unpredicable and localized. With may to mid June being the worst.
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Old 01-04-2015, 10:36 PM   #7
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I've camped and kayaked at both parks with a dog, MP a couple times and CL well into the double digits, and have never known black flies to be a problem. Mosquitoes yes and deer flies on the trails. If you go to CL then I'd try to avoid the Meadowlands area if you can because it's very swampy and I find the bugs to be heavier.

Park rules for pets should be the same at either park so maybe MP is a little more by the book. I let the dog swim when the opportunities arise without issue, away from the beach of course, just hookup when you're done. Lots of raccoons making the rounds at night so keep an eye on fido. They'll walk right by the fire without hesitation, very bold.

There's water sites available at CL which works great for the kayak. Most of the water sites at MP are high on a bluff as I recall so not as easy access. I used the boat launch when I was there.
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Thanks for replying I been curious about Murphyís Point I suspect some of the reviews Iíve read regarding the wardens being unfriendly towards campers with dogs may be sour grapes from people who have been irresponsible with their dogs. Iím so glad you replied because you mentioned you kayak presently Iím training a pup to kayak with me besides the fact Iíve just always wanted to visit M.P. I thought it might be a good park to get some practice in on a quiet lake as there is a motorboat free area. But that lake access is at the campground beach and apparently as one of the reviews states a dog is a big no no on the beach at M.P. Its not that I will allow him to swim or run around at the beach I just need to load and unload him in the kayak in a quiet place away from boats heís a little noise sensitive and Iíd like to make his first few trips as pleasant as possible. The campground I was looking at I believe is Hoggs Bay hopefully black flies wonít be an issue around June 14, I find it difficult to protect dogs from them more than the other pesky bugs. Thanks for the heads up on the raccoons theyíre like that at Bon Echo too and Algonquin was the worst.
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i was probably one of the posters that you read who am very responsible .. but was ticketed for 120 dollars for letting my dog swim in the lake ... outside and far away from a swimming area.
the park itself is very nice, boat docking is terrific, campsites are staggered between hills and valleys due to rock formations, but the rules very intense for such a park ...
we have gone back .. but only late in the fall .. when newbie ranger dudes are not scouring the area looking to ticket responsible campers.

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Old 01-27-2015, 02:40 PM   #10
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i was probably one of the posters that you read who am very responsible .. but was ticketed for 120 dollars for letting my dog swim in the lake ... outside and far away from a swimming area.
the park itself is very nice, boat docking is terrific, campsites are staggered between hills and valleys due to rock formations, but the rules very intense for such a park ...
we have gone back .. but only late in the fall .. when newbie ranger dudes are not scouring the area looking to ticket responsible campers.

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No actually the reviews about Murphyís Point regarding dogs was not on Forest River but a campsite review site. Something in those seemed like the same person reposting and there were possibly some other issues between that particular camper and the rangers.
I agree with you D-mo a $120 fine for allowing a dog to swim away from the beach area is extreme considering some the dÖÖÖÖheads Iíve encountered while camping. Iíve seen people allowed to camp that should have not only been fined but removed. But thanks for the heads up I was hoping to be able to find an area at the lake away from the beach yet close shore to work on training a very young dog to get into and out of a kayak and ride quietly without the added anxiety of motorboats but perhaps itís best to avoid Murphyís Point for this. In any event Iíve decided to go with a favourite oldie that doesnít allow motorboats and has a sandy canoe/kayak launch area, the lake goes deep quick so Iíll likely look quite silly paddling back and forth close to shore until pup gets the hang of things. Iíve seen the occasional dog in a canoe so I would think as long as the dog is not loaded at one of the two beach areas it shouldnít be an issue.
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We have camped, and enjoyed bon echo PP ...
This is a very used campsite ... so stay on the perimeter of each campground is recommended ... especially for electricity.
Black flys and misquotes were very bad last year when we went .. don't really know what i was thinking but we booked the 2nd week of May ... it was brutal, went through two hatches .. both black-flies .. and those darn mosquitoes ..
the park opens early so the first week in May is always nice ... rangers are very nice .. and there is a guy on the way in who has a major woodlot and sells great firewood to all that enter.

i will be headed to Algonquin park the first week of May ..

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D-mo, check out site 53 at Mews in Algonquin, we were there in the fall and have booked last weekend in May. Any suggestion for a site at Bob Echo?
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We go to Lake Huron. Inverhuron, enough of a breeze to keep mosquitos at bay, No Black flies at this park, going during the 60's till it closed, Reopened in 2000 and still none, They are adding Holmes Bay back another 80 sites I think. We were in Grundy Lake in early may, not too many black flies in May.
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Bon Echo is a great park I used to go every year summer and fall havenít been for a few years. We would take the Joe Perry Lake trail with the dogs and swim them at the lake. Became popular with dog people being several kilometers to hike to Joe Perry it wasnít considered a main beach so no issues having the pups out there, nice the park now has the pet exercise area; Bon Echo has definitely become increasingly popular. Very busy park but still lots of quiet places to visit and everyone is generally well behaved. I tried Arrowhead last year and left early the place was jammed, noisy and chaotic. Went on my list of been there, done that, never going back. Silent Lake is an awesome little park if youíre not into organized events and visitor centres but prefer things more scenic and down to earth. If youíre an AFramer, Tent trailer, small trailer or tenter this is an ideal place if you have a big rig there are very few options with the exception of the original small electrical loop. Hydro was added to some of the tent sites two years ago but the roads might be too narrow for backing up the big trailers. Not sure what the black flies will be like in June. Hoping to try Bonnechere in the future went for the day saw some nice non-electric sites right on the river.
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I have not been to Bonnechere since 1974. We spent a week there every summer when I was growing up. Loved Round Lake and Fishing. We used to boat up the river as far as we could go. Brings back some nice memories.
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June is always a crapshoot with bugs, depending on the winter and how long spring stretches through May. CL is a great spot but if bugs are bad does not matter what you do. If May is hot and heats the ground then June is good but hard to book a reservation with a bunch of maybes and what ifs.

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