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Old 11-28-2014, 10:16 AM   #1
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3170 power questions

So I just did an experiment. I'm using shore power and we shut off the battery disconnect and lost the TV and all lights. Do they not run on shore power at all? Am I missing something?

Any way to use electrical outlets during travel?
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Old 11-28-2014, 10:20 AM   #2
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So I just did an experiment. I'm using shore power and we shut off the battery disconnect and lost the TV and all lights. Do they not run on shore power at all? Am I missing something?

Any way to use electrical outlets during travel?
The lights are 12 volt.
I guess your tv must be 12 volt as well?
Furnace and fridge require 12 volt.
Water pump requires 12 volt.

Outlets Will only work with shore power unless you have an inverter and a pretty good battery bank.



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Old 11-28-2014, 10:50 AM   #3
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Doesn't this type of RV have a converter and a genny?
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Old 11-28-2014, 11:55 AM   #4
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turbs is correct and yes you can use any thing you want to when you travel just start the generator .
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:03 PM   #5
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Please forgive my confusion or stupidity, which is what I could be experiencing. LOL. I get they're all 12 volts but what does that have to do with those items not running off of shore power alone?




Thanks for the outlet info. We haven't learned too much about our generator yet. Just using the basics at the moment.
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Please forgive my confusion or stupidity, which is what I could be experiencing. LOL. I get they're all 12 volts but what does that have to do with those items not running off of shore power alone?.

Yes, they're 12v. When you're plugged into shore power, your camper's converter converts the 120v to 12v. Most converters are supposed to work without a battery, but some require it. It sounds like you're requires it. When you disconnect the battery, your converter doesn't have it any more and therefore your 12v stuff doesn't work.
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Old 11-28-2014, 12:33 PM   #7
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Oh, okay then. Good to know, thank you!
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Old 11-28-2014, 03:11 PM   #8
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I could be wrong again but the OP did not physically disconnect the battery he/she used the storage disconnect. Although don't know what kind of disconnect it is. Isn't the converter in parallel with the battery? Seems if you don't want the battery to over charge while on shore power should be able to remove it from circuit with no loss of 12V to the unit. Oh well.
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Old 11-28-2014, 03:22 PM   #9
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Here's my battery disconnect.
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If you are plugged into shore power, the convertor should supply 12 volts to the coach even with dead batteries or with the battery disconnect switch off. The convertor does not need a battery in the system to do its job. (Some say it's not good for the convertor to run without a battery to charge against, but that's another discussion.) If you are plugged in and have 120 volts (proven by microwave and air conditioner working) but loose 12 volts when you switch the battery disconnect off, then you have a problem with your convertor or you do not actually have 120 volts coming into the coach.


Are you SURE you have 120 volts going into the coach? Have you checked that either the microwave or air conditioner works? You could be plugged in but the circuit breaker at the shore line supply or the main breaker in your coach could be tripped.


Basic information that you may already know:


The shore line supplies 120 volts to the convertor which converts power to 12 volts, and supplies it to the coach power distribution panel in parallel with the batteries. The shore line also supplies 120 volts to the 120 volt side of the same power distribution panel. If you look at the panel you will see fuses on the 12 volt side and circuit breakers on the 120 volt side.


The convertor receives 120 volts from one of the circuit breakers in the power distribution panel, and feeds 12v volts back to the 12 volt side of the panel.


Here's a possiblilty: The convertor has two fuses on it. Are both okay? On our Sunseeker 3100, you can see the fuses on the convertor in the utility compartment where the shore line is stored.
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We've been using the microwave, so that's working fine.
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I'll have to check it out further on Sunday.
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Anyone have a picture of the converter so I know what I'm looking for?
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So I just did an experiment. I'm using shore power and we shut off the battery disconnect and lost the TV and all lights. Do they not run on shore power at all? Am I missing something?

Any way to use electrical outlets during travel?

I believe what you are experiencing is correct. The older units like I have have Wfco converters and it is connected downstream of the disconnect switch so 12v power remains on to the items you mentioned if the disconnect is opened. However with the later models and progressive dynamic converters it is connected upstream or on the battery side so you loose all downstream loads when the disconnect is opened.

Concerning 110v power at the outlets when not on shore power, there is an option you may or may not have which converts 12v to 110v for selected outlets. If you have the option list for your unit it should indicate the option if you have it. Otherwise just go around and check all outlets for power when not plugged in to find out if you have the option. If you have need to power some 110v olt devices while on the road or boondocking you can buy a converter which you can plug into one of your 12v outlets and get 110v. They come in various sizes and are available in places like Walmart. It's funny but I just bought a 400 watt one on special at Pep Boys Auto store for $20 to use in my Toyhauler.
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Old 11-28-2014, 06:37 PM   #15
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I went through my paperwork and I have an Inteli Power 9200 (PD9200) power converter.
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I went through my paperwork and I have an Inteli Power 9200 (PD9200) power converter.

Yes, that's made by Progressive Dynamics.
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To answer your question it is on the driver side in the same compartment as your shore line. There will be a rectangle box on the back wall, that is it. There are 2 fuses on the converter itself.


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