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Old 09-03-2014, 05:27 PM   #11
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From the factory I am biased, but I know both products very well and both are built similarly. So if you bought a Jayco I think you'd still have a well built motorhome you'd be happy with. Having said that, nothing really beats Sunseeker when talking bang for the buck, plus I have four kids and a lot of the designs were based around 2 boys (8-13 now)/ (2) girls (17 & 20 now). So here is the summary list...

Sunseeker has...
Fiberglass roof (Jayco is rubber or TPO, they have changed a couple of times)

The 3170 "kids zone" offers additional seating in the back area. Two seat belts in the lower "gamer sofa", let you sit back there during transit and watch a DVD (12V DVD player and 12V TV), while two other kids could sit up front and watch a DVD on the front TV (also 12V). On the other, they only have (2) beds back there...so no seatbelt while traveling and can only watch the little 9" dvd players when laying down. Not great for playing games on a rainy day (if you're into that stuff).

Sunseeker has furnace heated and enclosed tanks. So you can do cold weather camping. 31FS has 12V heated tanks (black and gray only, exposed to the elements). The Sunseeker dumps a heat run into the compartment to heat black/gray tanks and valves along with the water pump and water filter.

Sunseeker has 7,500lbs tow hitch (31FS 5,000)

Sunseeker has 2" thick sidewall with Azdel Superlight composite under the fiberglass. 31FS is 1.5" wall, with plywood under the fiberglass.

2 windows in the cab over bunk for cross ventilation.

Air duct in the cab over bunk. 31FS front is too sloped, so the duct outlet stops short of the bunk. So when the curtain is closed, you depend on it blowing through the mesh curtain.

Sunseeker 80 cubic feet of ext storage, 31FS is 39 last time I checked. (website says 52)

Sunseeker has air spring assist (adjustable), 31FS has helwig helper springs.

31FS puts the back up camera in the same screen as the radio. If you tow something you'e constantly flipping back and forth.

3170 has the back up camera in the rear view mirror, so that frees up the radio screen full time for radio or GPS.
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Old 09-03-2014, 08:59 PM   #12
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We've looked at a lot of bunkhouse Class C motorhomes, and have decided on either the Sunseeker 3170 or Forester 3171 (probably the Sunseeker)

Two main things pushed us to the Sunseeker/Forester.

1. Kids Zone. Having the extra belted seating position with it's own TV means mama can watch what she wants while the son can watch what he wants.

2. Low steps rather than electric extended steps.

My son also liked that the cab over area had a raised headrest.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:07 PM   #13
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My son also liked that the cab over area had a raised headrest.
You are looking at a remaining 2014. The newer models have a change on the front cap - aerodynamics, that forced Forest River to do away with the raised "headboard".
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:18 PM   #14
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Bgilly you beat me to it. I was just about to say, go buy that one quick, head rest is gone. We still have the storage & cover up there, but the windows had to be moved lower which made the storage flat.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:25 PM   #15
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So if I don't go with the levelers and go with the Lynx blocks, should I install stabilizer jacks like I have on my travel trailer or do these not bounce as much as travel trailers do?

They will still bounce some. It's better with the leveling jacks but does not eliminate it entirely.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:32 PM   #16
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Just to give you an idea on carry capacity I looked at the yellow tag on the door jamb on my 2011 3170 1643lb of carry capacity dry. This is with hydraulic levelers. If someone without levelers can post their cc it would give the op something to compare.
Same year and model here without levelers, just checked my yellow sticker and my CCC is 1782. Haven't weighed it yet, but would like to one of these days.
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:48 PM   #17
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For the 139 lb difference, IMO, its a no brainer TAKE THE LEVELERS
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:49 PM   #18
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We have a 2012 3170ds without levelers. We found a stable mat at a farm and ranch store. The mat is about 4' x 8' and three quarters of an inch thick. While the mat will bend, it will not crush. We cut 8" x 12" pieces of mat and use them for leveling blocks. The dealer gave us a small square leveling bubble. After 30 or 40 nights of camping, I can now pretty well tell from the location of the bubble how many pads I need to put under which wheels. Just stack the pads so that the 8" leading edge of each pad touches the tread of the tire, if you use more than one, so the tire will roll easily up onto the pads. The coach does rock some with people movement, but it doesn't bother us even when in bed. I tried to get along with as few things which can break as I reasonably can. I know that levelers would be nice to have, but I get along without them.

I second everything said above about how the 3170 is better than the Greyhawk. The best features in my opinion include the lower bunk/sofa and TV for kids, the enclosed black and gray water discharge compartment, and the heated tank compartments. I put a Sani-con in the discharge compartment and that makes the tank emptying job about 500% easier and quicker. While it can break, it is worth the risk and the original hose is an option, although perhaps messy, if the Sani- con broke. A Forest River cohort of Mr. Clemens told me where to hook up the power wire for the Sani-con. They are very helpful people. Get the fiberglass front cap if it is not standard.

We are most satisfied with our 3170. In any event, enjoy whichever coach you decide on.


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Old 09-06-2014, 05:57 PM   #19
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Didn't need the bunk house but loved the floor plan.We both said we would have if we bought this unit when the kids were little
Now it's just the two of us so 2860 for us
As for leveling jacks
We love them!
We never load the unit down so weight isn't an issue
They were included in the deal
I have a Good Sam 7 year warranty if they malfunction
Leveling blocks worked on the old 04 Jamboree but we were never really level
Now a push of the button
It is really nice to be able to level in our sloped driveway for cleaning and packing
Legos were not an option at the house
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