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Old 09-02-2014, 05:54 PM   #1
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3170DS vs. Greyhawk 31FS

Ok, so we have decided that it is time to move up to a motorhome from a TT. We have kids so bunkhouse is what we want. We looked at the 3170 last year but with me needing to replace my truck, I couldn't swing two payments so TT it was. Now after a long 2500 mile trip we know we would like to be in a Class C. So looking for some insight from the 3170 owners on why I should go with the Sunseeker over the Greyhawk. My local Forest River dealer is only a half hour from home and they have one in stock with everything we want except the levelers.
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Old 09-02-2014, 06:33 PM   #2
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cant give you a comparison to the greyhawk but can compare levelers vs no levelers and imo the levelers are a must have. we love our 2011 3170 it fits our needs perfectly. hope this helps
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Old 09-02-2014, 07:15 PM   #3
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The 3170DS is great but stay away from the levelers. They add a lot of weight and the Cargo capacity of these big units are not as high as one would expect.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:13 PM   #4
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@chad.... How much do these systems weigh? They are coming standard now on the Jayco Greyhawk line.
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Old 09-02-2014, 09:50 PM   #5
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My wife and I were pretty much set on the Greyhawk, but at the Hershey show we saw the Sunseeker 3170 and the main thing we liked about the Sunseeker was the bunk was also a sofa. Might seem like a little thing, but it does give more living room with that option. All our travel trailers were Jayco before this. Each has there own minor problems, but we have 9000 miles on ours with very few problems.
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:21 PM   #6
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I have the Forester 3171 cousin to the Sunseeker 3170. I have a 13 year old son and a 14 year old niece that comes on many of the trips with us and both have done very well with this floorplan. I reviewed a lot of bunkhouse class C units: Thor, Jayco, Chateau, Leprechaun, Winnebago - just to name a few. It was an exhausting experience but I had already been through two tt and knew what I wanted and didn't want. The Forester had just about everything I could want.
The pluses over the other class C's we looked at were the enclosed utility compartment (sewer and electrical), great bathroom design (the most cabinet area by comparison), outside storage compartment (among the best in space utilization), a very comfy bed in the bedroom, as someone mentioned - the bottom bunk that is a sofa with rated seatbelts, and just overall storage space inside the coach. The low built-in step well was a plus too but most class C's are coming with them now.
My soon loves the bunk area - mainly the bottom bunk where as my niece chooses the over-cab bed. It gives her a lot of space up there and her own zone (with the 32" TV all to herself once everyone goes to bed).

The hydraulic levelers is a personal thing - kinda like the extra TV outside; some like it and want it, some don't. I like them. It is something else to maintain but its not that big of a deal. As far as the added weight goes, its less than 150 pounds per leveler and its part of the chassis. I don't get that close to my gross weight capacity that I have to worry about it.

I can't really think of any minuses except I wish we could access more of the kitchen cabinets with the slide in but it's not that big of a deal. We just plan ahead and have some utensils pulled out before retracting the living room slide.

In June we did a 18 day 4700 mile trip in the coach with 4 people and a dog and towing our Equinox, the coach did perfect for us. I would not have done that same trip with my tt and truck.

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Old 09-03-2014, 06:31 AM   #7
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We also considered levelers but I vetoed them. I didn't like the cost, weight, and potential repair costs. It takes no more than 15 minutes to level the coach with Lynx blocks. Figure the cost for each time you will set it up and you may not think it is worth the cost. So far we have used ours over 400 nights, averaging 3 or 4 nights per setup, so the cost would be about $25 per setup!

In addition, many places require a pad under the jacks so you still have to deal with them. You have to keep some weight on the rear wheels to keep it from rolling, and if the site is badly unlevel you would still have to block up the wheels.

Hint for using leveling blocks: The coach is about 2 inches low in the front. If a site is dead level I have to put 2 inches of blocks under the front wheels to get it level.

All said and done, though, decide for yourself whether to get levelers or not. It's your money and lifestyle.
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Old 09-03-2014, 06:54 AM   #8
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So if I don't go with the levelers and go with the Lynx blocks, should I install stabilizer jacks like I have on my travel trailer or do these not bounce as much as travel trailers do?
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Old 09-03-2014, 07:12 AM   #9
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So if I don't go with the levelers and go with the Lynx blocks, should I install stabilizer jacks like I have on my travel trailer or do these not bounce as much as travel trailers do?
The blocks are for leveling on sites that are substantially off grade. The hydraulic levelers are more for leveling the coach within the suspension of the chassis and stabilization. You don't want the hydraulic levelers picking the coach up, just more taking it off the cushion of the suspension system.
Yes they do rock, bounce - the suspension works both ways; spring down (bumps or bounce from above) spring up (bumps from the road).
I've camped both ways - with the levelers up and with them down (on a level site) and there is definitely a difference in how "solid" the coach is with the levelers down.

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Old 09-03-2014, 08:30 AM   #10
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Just to give you an idea on carry capacity I looked at the yellow tag on the door jamb on my 2011 3170 1643lb of carry capacity dry. This is with hydraulic levelers. If someone without levelers can post their cc it would give the op something to compare.
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