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Old 05-30-2016, 09:27 AM   #11
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Thanks .... the RV dealer told me it could be toad 4 down. Shows me that I need to do my own research and not trust the dealer knowledge.
In God We Trust, the rest of you #@!$%&!* get verified. An old military security saying that applies here as well....

My wife's 2016 Ford Fusion is a case in point. The hybrid versions can be flat towed, they have the same drive train as my C-Max. We didn't want a second hybrid so she purchased a 2.0 EcoBoost which cannot be flat towed. I was told by a dealer it could be flat towed. When I pulled up the 2016 Ford Towing Guide the sales person claimed that was a new change... I could have pulled up the 2015 Guide, or the 2014 Guide, to show them it wasn't a "new change" but it wasn't worth the effort.

The good news is her Fusion fits the Acme dolly just fine so we can chose between it, or my C-Max, as our TOAD for any given trip. At ~45MPG the C-Max usually wins...
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:36 AM   #12
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Just wondering if you are securing your steering wheel from turning while using the dolly. We just picked up a 2016 C-Max Energi 3 weeks ago and it does not have a locking steering column. Love the 700 miles so far and still have 1/2 tank of gas left.
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Old 05-30-2016, 09:51 AM   #13
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Just wondering if you are securing your steering wheel from turning while using the dolly. We just picked up a 2016 C-Max Energi 3 weeks ago and it does not have a locking steering column. Love the 700 miles so far and still have 1/2 tank of gas left.
No, I'm not... We have a SEL with push button start as well. I did a lot of reading here, the C-Max forum, and talked to my local Ford dealer and Acme about that.

Here is a quote from the Acme website:

"If you have a locking column, make sure it is left unlocked thus allowing the steering wheel to turn."

See Here for the page that quote is from....

I'm jealous over your Energi. I wanted one but the Energi weighed too much to tow behind the MBS we had as our last motor home. That extra battery pack ain't light! I'll just suffer with my ~45MPG for a while longer I guess.....
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Old 05-30-2016, 12:30 PM   #14
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I would recommend going to the real authority for a definitive answer. See page 185 of your Owner's Manual online for your 2014 Ford Escape: http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Fo.../14204om2e.pdf
Emergency towing only: Maximum speed is 35 mph (56 km/h). Maximum distance is 50 miles (80 kilometers).
Towing behind an RV: CANNOT be flat-towed (all wheels on the ground), as vehicle or transmission damage may occur.
Front-wheel drive must be on a tow dolly and all-wheel drive must be all 4 wheels off the ground.
I had an Acme tow dolly for a year and it worked perfectly. I bought a 4WD Wrangler because it's much easier to hookup and unhook.
By the way, the Acme tow dolly requires the steering to be unlocked.
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X 1000 on research! We recently bought a new vehicle and wanted to keep the option of a dolly open. (No flat towable vehicle met our needs/wants and we don't want to go back to 2 vehicles). One dealer swore their AWD SUV was flat towable and that caught our interest. Good thing we did our research because it turns out to not be true. Could have been an expensive lesson. Our Moho is small and we do well without a toad and have used Enterprise at times. Options options options.
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Dolly or 4 down

All of the older escape HYBRIDS are flat towable, the gas models are NOT!
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Dolly will save wear on the front tires but for me that is the only advantage. 4 down its easy and no worries about storing a dolly.
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We go "toadless" well over half the time. But if we are staying in one spot several days I want a car. I looked at just renting a car at the destination. But the cost of the tow dolly over time is much more attractive for me.
Yeah, I guess model years could differ on towong....

I know towing with dolly or four down is cheaper than renting. I do rent cars a lot. I just don't want to hassle with the hooking up the tow car or where to stow the tow dolly cuz a lot of places don't have room for you to stow the tow dolly....

Oh, if you do rent cars and use an AMEX card, sign up for Amex's rental car protection, it's $19.95 PER RENTAL up to 30 days if you are a WA resident, up to 45 days in other states. Well worth it. On the other hand, it's a bit steep if you rent for ONE day, might be cheaper to take the rental company's coverage. Although personal car coverage does extend to rental cars, I don't currently have a personal car so I use AMEX's coverage. Also, even if you do have a personal car, if you use AMEX's coverage, and have a problem, you won't have to go through your own insurance first, AMEX becomes primary. But it only covers the car, doesn't cover liability. I carry broadform insurance for that....
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Thanks .... the RV dealer told me it could be toad 4 down. Shows me that I need to do my own research and not trust the dealer knowledge.
NEVER trust your dealer. While they may mean well, verify everything. I bought an Demco Kar Kaddy from a dealer recently that was not set up properly...I should have checked everything but my trust cost me $1,000 in repairs to my car. I have a post about it under towing, check it out.
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All of the older escape HYBRIDS are flat towable, the gas models are NOT!
Aw. That was it. I had a hybrid and Ford said it could be towed.
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