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07-11-2014, 07:40 AM
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"Kids Zone" in Sunseeker 3170ds
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07-11-2014, 12:28 PM
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1. run the generator..
2. Wire a 12v outlet. The problem with us providing a 12v outlet is what size??? I know that with the playstation 2, we could plug a little inverter into a cigarette lighter and it worked fine. When we tried the same with the Playstation 3 it would not work because it drew too much power.
What I would do is run a line straight to the battery under the step well and punch it up into a 12V outlet in the cabinet below the kids zone. Or I would run the ten in these situations.
3. The 12V TV plugs into a 12V outlet. The 12V DVD player is fed with 12v, maybe you can splice into that. Again, my concern would be if there is enough power.
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07-11-2014, 12:44 PM
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Hooking up an invertor to a 12v line shouldn't be an issue. Your best bet would be to run a separate line (with fuse) from the batteries to the invertor and then use that to power the xbox.
My concern is your statement "while driving". Is this an approved travel seat, with seat belts? I thought most motorhomes only provided seat belts up near the cab. I wouldn't recommend bothering to hook up an xbox back there if you can't legally travel with the kids back there.
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07-11-2014, 01:04 PM
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We (Forest River) added (2) seat belts back to that kids zone sofa a year or so back. Exclusive to us (hooray) since we're the only ones that do a jackknife sofa in place of a "bunk only" arrangement. He's good to go.
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07-11-2014, 01:24 PM
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Alright, just wanted to be sure. I've heard too many horror stories of people letting their family roam free in a motorhome. Even worse, I've heard the odd one about trailers too.
But, back to question on hand, considering the power draw of an invertor, the OP will want to consider my suggestion of installing a dedicated line from the batteries to the the invertor. It's pretty much the only safe way to ensure you're not overloading any other circuits as we don't know how many amps his invertor will end up drawing.
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07-12-2014, 10:49 PM
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We have a Wii back there and its great! We won't hear a complaint from them until meal time. Our 2011 didn't have seat belts in the kids zone from the factory. Amazon to the rescue...drill, grade 8 carriage bolts, and 3 seat belts!
I tapped into the 12v supply line that powers the TV & DVD player (remove panel in lower compartment) and installed a 12v aux outlet. Then I lucked out... The Wii takes 12v DC in...so back to Amazon, bought a cheap china Wii power cord, cut off the transformer, and simply installed a 12v car plug. No inverter needed!
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07-14-2014, 10:30 PM
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Can you add the seat belts to the kids zone ? I have a 13' and I don't have the belts. FWIW the Xbox is a power hog and does not like to be in a closed cabinet when running.
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07-15-2014, 08:24 AM
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There was no backer in there for seat belts originally. We ended up adding it sometime on the 14's to add some flexibility to that floor plan.
I'm sure people have added them, but they would not pass any safety testing.
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07-15-2014, 09:07 PM
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"Kids Zone" in Sunseeker 3170ds
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Originally Posted by bclemens
...I'm sure people have added them, but they would not pass any safety testing.
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I'm assuming you meant "haven't passed a safety testing." It wasn't an offered option back in 2011 from the factory, so it would be understandable to anyone adding this afterwards that it hasn't undergone NHTSA testing/approval.
However, making a statement that "none" would pass doesn't sound quite right as Forest River found a way to do it in 2014 as you say.
I used all NHTSA tested parts and approved installation methods back in 2011 when we got the coach. My concern was never the seat belts or parts used, but the idea that they are secured to a moving slide. After reviewing the installation of the factory installed seat belts in the couch (in a slide also) my confidence was quenched. This option was a must for us and our dealer was more than willing to install it. At the end of the day I trust my engineering skills, experience, and common sense more than a part-time RV tech that doesn't own what he's working on (or even an RV for that matter). There I go making general sweeping statements, sorry bout that!
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07-15-2014, 09:13 PM
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DMezzoprete here's a pic of my 12volt aux outlet install:
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07-16-2014, 07:31 AM
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Instead of running 12 volts from the battery you may have a spare fuse in the power distribution panel. It will be closer and you would already have a fuse. Would be a neater job.
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07-16-2014, 07:31 AM
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Let me rephrase that. It would not pass a 5,000lbs pull test as it was built back then.
Yes, we did find a way to add the seat belts back there, but that required us adding backer and more framing inside of the slide floor. Just bolting through the slide floor was not going to pass.
Personally, seat belts in the living area of RV's to me are just the "politically correct" thing to do. Frankly rear facing seat belts, side seat belts etc I think are just to make some people seem safer. Back in the day we would all ride in the back of trucks, ride in the truck camper laying in the overhead bunk looking out the windows (front and side), we never had seat belts.
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07-16-2014, 07:35 AM
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Thank you all for your help! I'm not great as an electrician so I'm just going to take it to a dealer and have them install a 12V outlet.
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