New sleeper sofa on 3010 and 3011

**bclemens** · 08-06-2013, 12:19 PM

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...e=3&uploaded=5

Instead of a small jack knife sofa, we'll be doing this on any floor plan that has the space to do it.

For sure the 3010 and 3011 are getting it now.

I think the Solera 24S with optional sofa gets it. Most floor plans won't work due to the length of the bed.

I'm 5'11" and the bed is about the same length. My heels come right to the end.

Brother Les · 08-06-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bclemens

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...e=3&uploaded=5

Instead of a small jack knife sofa, we'll be doing this on any floor plan that has the space to do it.

For sure the 3010 and 3011 are getting it now.

I think the Solera 24S with optional sofa gets it. Most floor plans won't work due to the length of the bed.

I'm 5'11" and the bed is about the same length. My heels come right to the end.

Bought a 2013 Hemisphere that came with a blow up mattress sofa. Asked where the air pump was? Salesman said that they were sold in the Dealership store.....

**bclemens** · 08-06-2013, 12:41 PM

We've avoided the air mattresses in the Class C division...just too many issues.

bob34787 · 08-06-2013, 01:37 PM

same sofa thats in the Aviator, maybe FR should rethink there position, worst bed I have ever tried to sleep on. The dogs don't even think its comfortable.

**bclemens** · 08-06-2013, 01:42 PM

That's why we give you the nice Serta Pillow top in the back. This sofa is for kid and guests.

bob34787 · 08-06-2013, 03:05 PM

hate to say this but that serta pillow top is the hardest thing in all 4 of my FR RV's at least with the trump mattress it became comfortable with 4" of foam, the Aviator's does not. I would assume the same person that thought up that semi-circular dinette sleeper came up with that couch. Did it ever occur to anyone that the center cushion has no way to stay in place when the table is dropped into sleeping position? I wish more of the designers actually tried to use the RV products they came up with , similar to all the brilliant Civil Engineers that designed the bridges I had to build.

MikeRP · 08-06-2013, 08:38 PM

There is a way to keep the dinette cushion in place. I don't have a pic but you essentially reverse position.

**bclemens** · 08-07-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bob34787

hate to say this but that serta pillow top is the hardest thing in all 4 of my FR RV's at least with the trump mattress it became comfortable with 4" of foam, the Aviator's does not. I would assume the same person that thought up that semi-circular dinette sleeper came up with that couch. Did it ever occur to anyone that the center cushion has no way to stay in place when the table is dropped into sleeping position? I wish more of the designers actually tried to use the RV products they came up with , similar to all the brilliant Civil Engineers that designed the bridges I had to build.

There are different versions of the Serta. We use the Eurotop (all foam)...which I find very comfortable as do most. However, I have also slept on the Trump version. I slept on that one during a ski trip and it was absolutely perfect. It was very comfortable and the visco foam retains more heat...which worked well at 17 degrees. Our leader on that trip liked to turn the T-stat down to about 60 at night.

bob34787 · 08-07-2013, 09:24 AM

can't be the same POS they put in my Aviator, that thing is a rock even with 4" of foam on it. My first FR 36 RE had a serta non pillow top and it was perfect, we never moved after laying down, my Ridgeview was not terrible but the 36 CKTS and the Aviator just suck. The Trump was not bad with foam but nothing short of replacing the one in the Aviator is going to work. I thought the couch, or as other Aviator owners call it " the ouch" would be a better choice, I was wrong, tried the dinette but the center cushions just slide off, again I say for the price point they thought they could sell the Aviator for a little more thought should have been given to the furnishings, don't care who owns the furniture company.

**bclemens** · 08-07-2013, 09:31 AM

I have a Serta temperpedic at home and it has been awesome for 7 years. the Trump has been the closest to it and I slept like a baby. But its not for everyone...it is a major area of personal opinion.

I will say that Motorhome units (which this thread is) and trailers use different mattresses. We have to comply with different flame spread ratings since you are traveling in it. You do end up with distinctly different options that are available.

**ependydad** · 08-07-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bob34787

can't be the same POS they put in my Aviator, that thing is a rock even with 4" of foam on it. My first FR 36 RE had a serta non pillow top and it was perfect, we never moved after laying down, my Ridgeview was not terrible but the 36 CKTS and the Aviator just suck. The Trump was not bad with foam but nothing short of replacing the one in the Aviator is going to work. I thought the couch, or as other Aviator owners call it " the ouch" would be a better choice, I was wrong, tried the dinette but the center cushions just slide off, again I say for the price point they thought they could sell the Aviator for a little more thought should have been given to the furnishings, don't care who owns the furniture company.

Brian's point is a good one. This is a Sunseeker motorhome thread. I can see that you're clearly unhappy with the furniture in your Aviator, however- you might be best served by raising these concerns up in a more appropriate forum or directly with that division at FR.

bob34787 · 08-07-2013, 10:54 AM

just stating a fact, the sofa is already in use and is not liked by those that have it, whcih progressed into the cheap furnishings that are involved in almost all FR products. Sorry

**bclemens** · 08-07-2013, 01:45 PM

It's not actually the same sofa. They brought us the prototype, we made custom modifications to it for our use. We did not like the cushions or the comfort of the bed. We change the cushion size, density and foam quality. We don't want cheap, we want functional and comfortable. But we are only one division, I can't speak for the others.

osgood · 08-07-2013, 08:16 PM

I have the Serta pillow top in my 3010 and love it. Never move once I am down. I have to put the sleep timer on the tv because that bed knocks me right out... I will add this though... The comforter that came with the SS went straight to a bin in the house. I hate those sewn corners and scratchy fabric. Every TT we have had before this had the same type comforter. I believe it is a Cotton-Polly-Cardboard blend.... HAHA

MikeRP · 08-07-2013, 08:22 PM

The bed in my Sunseeker is amazing. I sleep like a baby. Spent 50 days in it in the last year. It's as good to me as my $2500 Beauty rest I have at home. So far all my furnishings look new after one year.

MikeRP · 08-07-2013, 08:23 PM

This last two weeks in Colorado I was having dreams like the Sunseeker was my real home. It was weird.

osgood · 08-07-2013, 08:33 PM

We have had 14 trips since we bought our 3010 in February... Love it!!! I do need to get an ottoman for the couch. The wife wants to share it sometimes.

Garrette · 08-07-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by osgood

We have had 14 trips since we bought our 3010 in February... Love it!!! I do need to get an ottoman for the couch. The wife wants to share it sometimes.

We got ottoman from Walmart for $18. It is a padded storage box about 14"sq with a padded lid. Both slide under table when traveling. Works for us..

osgood · 08-07-2013, 08:53 PM

Ill have to pick one up tomorrow... Heading to Mohican State Park for 9 days... There may be some tv time on that trip.

**bclemens** · 08-08-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by osgood

I will add this though... The comforter that came with the SS went straight to a bin in the house. I hate those sewn corners and scratchy fabric. Every TT we have had before this had the same type comforter. I believe it is a Cotton-Polly-Cardboard blend.... HAHA

We're are aware of that. We looked at a nice "down alternative" comforter. Very nice...but it just looks like I took my shirt out of the hamper all the time. It just doesn't drape very well and always seems to look unmade.

It hasn't been a huge priority yet...but we have been looking at a few alternatives.

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