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Old 09-16-2019, 12:23 PM   #1
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Stuck in Ohio with open slide

Help. I am in ohio with my dinette slide open and not closing. Got the front loose by removing pin in drive. Cannot get back gear loose to push in. HELP
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:24 PM   #2
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:17 PM   #3
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:18 PM   #4
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I was in DC once and could not get my slide to go in, after all the panic found out the engine had to be off for the slide to work. Not sure if that helps but it was surely a lesson for me. Good luck with resolving the issue.
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:36 PM   #5
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Did you try the manual crank in the gear box located next to the motor? I think it is a 5/8" hex hanging down below the motor.
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Old 09-16-2019, 02:59 PM   #6
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Engine is off. I could hear motor in slide working and see manual crank turning. Seems like a gear problem. Trying to just push slide back in. Front is free but the back is stuck. Spoke to FR and they said take motor off which I did but it is still stuck.
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From experience with our 2012 Solera - as mentioned above, look for a hex on the back of the slide motor. Turning that should drive the slide through the gearbox.

If that fails, on mine there is a square drive coming out of both sides of the motor/gearbox unit - one side to the forward gearing the slide; the other to the back gear. I believe I see that drive tube in your second picture. A bolt and nut through the square drive tube at each end connects the drive pinion gear to the motor driven gearbox. Removing a bolt each on both the front and the rear drive tubes should allow you manually push the slide in.

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Your messages came while I was typing. Sounds like removing the bolts on the square drive tubes is necessary.

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Old 09-16-2019, 03:29 PM   #9
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From experience with our 2012 Solera - as mentioned above, look for a hex on the back of the slide motor. Turning that should drive the slide through the gearbox.

If that fails, on mine there is a square drive coming out of both sides of the motor/gearbox unit - one side to the forward gearing the slide; the other to the back gear. I believe I see that drive tube in your second picture. A bolt and nut through the square drive tube at each end connects the drive pinion gear to the motor driven gearbox. Removing a bolt each on both the front and the rear drive tubes should allow you manually push the slide in.

Hope this helps - Jim


Your messages came while I was typing. Sounds like removing the bolts on the square drive tubes is necessary.

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I removed a drive bolt on the right side and that is loose. Can't find one for the back or left side where the motor is. Everything is shielded and tight in there.
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Just want to be sure we are talking about the same "manual override". Mine is located in the outdoor storage compartment below the motor, it is the 5/8" hex in the photo sticking through the black plastic cover.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:35 PM   #11
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Manual override does not work. The motor will spin it. Apparently the gears in the box above it are shot. I took the motor off and the back side with the gearbox does not move. Cannot figure out how to remove the right angle gear box.
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Just want to be sure we are talking about the same "manual override". Mine is located in the outdoor storage compartment below the motor, it is the 5/8" hex in the photo sticking through the black plastic cover.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:39 PM   #12
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Anyone know how to remove this. I can't even take screws off to tdd try to split it. Click image for larger version

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I know that part all too well. I just replaced the same parts on my 2013 2500 ts last month. It's called the ragbox, made by Venture industries. I couldn't buy just that part, have to buy whole assembly with motor and gearbox. I replaced it myself in my driveway. Only way to do it is to remove slideout room from the coach. The bolts holding the ragbox in place are in the black square tubing. There is also a long drive shaft on the other side that must be slid out after loosening a gear that is set screwed to it. No way to access bolts, the gear, or the shaft without removing the room from coach. I will start another post with Pics showing my adventure. IMO, I think the ragbox design is garbage, mine failed after 100 to 150 cycles. Had to also wait 3 weeks for part, they were back ordered. What does that tell you? Have someone hold in the button while you push from the outside. I was able to get mine in that way.
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Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately my slide will not go back in. Had all day to figure out what you posted. Plan tomorrow to remove bolts holding track to slide and then hammering track to see if it will go in. I had taken motor off already.
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I know that part all too well. I just replaced the same parts on my 2013 2500 ts last month. It's called the ragbox, made by Venture industries. I couldn't buy just that part, have to buy whole assembly with motor and gearbox. I replaced it myself in my driveway. Only way to do it is to remove slideout room from the coach. The bolts holding the ragbox in place are in the black square tubing. There is also a long drive shaft on the other side that must be slid out after loosening a gear that is set screwed to it. No way to access bolts, the gear, or the shaft without removing the room from coach. I will start another post with Pics showing my adventure. IMO, I think the ragbox design is garbage, mine failed after 100 to 150 cycles. Had to also wait 3 weeks for part, they were back ordered. What does that tell you? Have someone hold in the button while you push from the outside. I was able to get mine in that way.
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Desperation move - maybe a pipe wrench on the shaft that is sticking out that would normally drive the other end of the slide?
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:02 PM   #16
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I had a similar problem last year. The pin in the gearbox was broken. If you dismounted the motor, you probably see that the end of the shaft has a slot at the end. This slot is used to drive the transmission axle using the pin. If the pin is broken, the motor turns but not the gearbox. If I remember well, you will have to open the gearbox and replace the pin. There are some small bolts to remove (I don't remember how many, 2, 3 or 4) to be able to open the gearbox. We had another post on that subject in the past, maybe you can find it. There may be more details in it.

Hope I am clear, excuse my English, my primary language is french.
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On the gearbox picture you posted on #12, we can see two bolts (maybe I should say screws). I am not sure but maybe there is another one behind the shaft.
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Where are you in Ohio? If in the Akron-Canton area, there is a first class RV repair shop in Alliance (15miles east of Canton) 330-823-6776.By far the best shop I have found in my 15 years on the road. If you use them, please tell that Kirk recommended them ( I used to live there years before we started RVing )
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I know that part all too well. I just replaced the same parts on my 2013 2500 ts last month. It's called the ragbox, made by Venture industries. I couldn't buy just that part, have to buy whole assembly with motor and gearbox. I replaced it myself in my driveway. Only way to do it is to remove slideout room from the coach. The bolts holding the ragbox in place are in the black square tubing. There is also a long drive shaft on the other side that must be slid out after loosening a gear that is set screwed to it. No way to access bolts, the gear, or the shaft without removing the room from coach. I will start another post with Pics showing my adventure. IMO, I think the ragbox design is garbage, mine failed after 100 to 150 cycles. Had to also wait 3 weeks for part, they were back ordered. What does that tell you? Have someone hold in the button while you push from the outside. I was able to get mine in that way.
I'll be interested to see how you removed the room as a DIY project. Every time I run the slide out I worry that it won't come back in!
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I have the same slide mechanism, here are a couple thoughts.


In this photo you can see the two bolts holding the gearbox to the frame, I don't know how you would get them out except by cutting a hole in the slide floor. If you could get them out the gearbox and shaft would move to the side enough that the gear would clear the rack.


Also, on mine, looking under the slide at the rack and the gear on the gearbox shaft I see two setscrews. On mine one is visible and could be loosened with a 12 inch extension and hex bit, if the slide moves just a bit the gear would rotate and the other setscrew would be accessible. Then the rack and the slide should be free from the jammed gearbox.
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