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Old 06-17-2014, 06:28 PM   #11
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My unit was only 3 weeks old had to replace all tail light, brake light bulbs. I think that the bulb installer at FR has dirty hands.. I just replaced the bulbs with new, handled them properly and done deal. Never used silicone.
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Old 06-17-2014, 07:15 PM   #12
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We had the same problem with water with all six of the tail lights, turn signals, and reverse lights on our 3170. All six bulbs were blown by water. We got the the direct replacement Bardman LEDs, and all works well now. They were plug and play, no electrical modification required. The Bardmans are sealed units. So four LED reds and two LED whites later everything is okay.
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Old 06-18-2014, 04:20 PM   #13
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I've got engineering talking to Bargman. That is how they come and they say they work just fine. If that's their answer...I'll just pick up my toys and play elsewhere.
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:42 PM   #14
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well send me 8 replacements and I'll sing your
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Old 06-19-2014, 09:31 AM   #15
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Just ordered the Bargman 84 LED upgrades. Will let you know in a few days how it works out

Installed LED upgrade to all four tail/stop/turn lights. 5 minute job. Works fantastic. No modifications to the flasher or anything else (at least on my Chevy). Next I will order the backup lights to match.

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Here is one installed on the top and old one in the middle for comparison.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:51 AM   #16
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Too bad it's going to cost us all over $200 to replace all 6, for something as basic as rear lights that we should be able to expect would work without issues.
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:08 AM   #17
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$30 a piece for red ones on Amazon. Backups are about $35.

I look at it as an "upgrade" since they are so much better. I didn't have any problems with the factory originals in 2+ years--just wanted the LEDs because they are ten times brighter and long term they should be more reliable, since they will burn out one LED at a time instead of the whole light being out (in theory!).

Just like cars are switching to LEDs, I imagine RVs will also. This is just the beginning of applications for LEDs.
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Old 06-19-2014, 11:37 AM   #18
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Thank you for that RvBill. We have been working on Bargman for two years now for LED options. Other guys were doing it...they were not. They finally did an LED tail light...but NOT the reverse light (what's the point?). They claimed that the reverse would not pass DOT in LED....but again, everyone else was doing it. A year later we finally got them to get an all LED tail light (reverse too) but now they wanted 3 times the price of their normal light...as everyone else is getting cheaper in LED's.

We were testing the LED tail, Incandescent reverse on Solera and it seems to be running OK. Should be moving to all LED's shortly on that product and at some point will look to do the same on the other stuff. If the price is right.
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Looks great rvbill! How did you search for them on Amazon?
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:19 PM   #20
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The upgrade backup light that Bargman sells is all white. They include a stick on reflector to put somewhere on the back to conform to DOT requirements. HOWEVER, the red lights have a reflector in the center of them. So if you are using the red LEDs, then the all white backup light is not an issue. You will meet DOT requirements with the red LEDs.

Purchasing the backup light (LED) with reflector around it is very expensive compared to buying the all-white upgrade.
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