Originally Posted by RvBill3
The upgrade backup light that Bargman sells is all white. They include a stick on reflector to put somewhere on the back to conform to DOT requirements. HOWEVER, the red lights have a reflector in the center of them. So if you are using the red LEDs, then the all white backup light is not an issue. You will meet DOT requirements with the red LEDs.
Purchasing the backup light (LED) with reflector around it is very expensive compared to buying the all-white upgrade.
Correct. I bought the fixtures rather than the LED upgrade. One fixture with the 2 red LED signal/brake and the 1 incandescent reverse was cheaper than 2 red LED upgrade: http://www.sportsrecreationmall.com/cqnt3026.html
There is a compliant LED white reverse with the red reflector trim but I didn't like it because it is not symmetrical in design - having a chrome trim around the outside. Reverse is not that important to me to have LED.
Bargman LED catalog: http://www.bargman.com/content/products.aspx?lvl=2&parentid=8201&catID=8220&part= 0
I did the fixture upgrade for two reasons;1) the leaking lens 2) to reduce my lighting load. I mentioned in another post that I had my rear/side camera acting up and it was due to a poorly conducting bulb.
Originally Posted by bclemens
I've got engineering talking to Bargman. That is how they come and they say they work just fine. If that's their answer...I'll just pick up my toys and play elsewhere.
Brian, there is indeed a seal design issue with the Bargman 84/85 incandescent fixtures. It's not from install so no responsibility to FR.
I removed my lenses and cleaned inside the blub area in January. When I got my coach back from warranty work in May and I still had the RVS camera/monitor problem, I suspected something with the brake/parking lights since when I stepped on the brakes, the monitor would change views.
I removed the lenses again and one of the brake/signal bulbs was acting weird. A poor connection and seemingly shorting between the two positive prongs of the bulb socket. Cleaned it up and the camera and monitor works perfect.
After our trip through New Mexico/Arizona, I removed the lenses again. The insides were dusted with red dust (no red dirt in my area).
Bargman needs some sort of rubber seal around each of the lenses. I assume they don't do this so hot air can escape.
I'm all upgraded to a pair of 47-84-009 and I am very pleased. I would be happy to send you my removed fixtures if that will help you, the engineers or Bargman in investigating if there is a problem.
Sorry for the long post.