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Old 07-02-2014, 08:33 PM   #31
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Added the LED upgrade backup lights today. What a difference! It will be possible to back into a campsite at night without need for other lighting. (Plus they look great!)
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Old 07-02-2014, 09:46 PM   #32
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Added the LED upgrade backup lights today. What a difference! It will be possible to back into a campsite at night without need for other lighting. (Plus they look great!)
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You might still check inside the lights from time to time.
I bought the entire fixture which came with 2 LED brake/tail lights and one incandescent backup installed in the base.
A day later after a night of heavy Louisiana dew, I noticed water collected in the lens of the backup light lens. I removed the lens and caught what the problem is.

The black base has an outer lip and an inner lip and the lens cover fits between the two (I guess I should have taken a picture for illustration). Water gathers just under the outer lip, rolls to the lens edge then falls in the lens channel overcoming the inner lip.
Basically this entire recess that the lens fits into needs a gasket. I was not able to find a large enough o-ring but I recall that silicone doesn't "like" the vinyl material of the black base. I removed all the lights and lenses, filled the recess with a black silicone, allowed it to cure and re-installed the lights and lenses. The lens edge didn't go in as far because of the silicone but I did see it compress the silicone. Once all the lights and lenses were installed I used a towel to rub off the silicone waste.
It worked perfect. No other occurrences with water even with some of out heavy thunderstorms lately.
I mention this even though you now have all LED including the backup, but the water still gets inside behind the LED fixture. Not inside is but in the recess for the fixture. Left unchecked it could migrate into the LED fixture.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:47 AM   #33
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All of these upgrade fixtures are sealed units with a pigtail that plugs into the original bulb socket. Water cannot get into the LED fixture itself. I suppose water could get behind the fixture and if it pooled behind the fixture could eventually short out the socket. However, these fit very tightly and I see no evidence of any water intrusion. They have been through a driving rain on the road, and while parked, as well as high pressure spray from washing the MH. (I did not have any water problems with the previous incandescent lens either--just wanted the look and brightness of LEDs. The brightness is amazing. Much more visible, much safer.)


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Old 07-03-2014, 07:24 AM   #34
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All of these upgrade fixtures are sealed units with a pigtail that plugs into the original bulb socket. Water cannot get into the LED fixture itself.

The black block on the back of the LED fixture is not air/water tight but there would be bigger problems if the water gets that high inside the fixture.
You are lucky that you don't have the lens seal issue most of us have with the Bargman design.
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:14 AM   #35
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I have had my new led lights in for about a week now. What an improvement! Since I am in FL (probably part of the problem) I thought I would take one of the top lights off to check for water. I found condensation on the surface of the light fixture! Part of my original problem was that the bulb base and the bulb receptical corroded badly. So....I took them all off and made sure they were dry and found that both top lights had condensation. So I put silicone around all the new lenses. Of course now I can't remove them, but I don't know what else to do, except hope for the best! I did put bulb grease on all of the metal contacts.
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Old 07-03-2014, 10:59 AM   #36
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I have had my new led lights in for about a week now. What an improvement! Since I am in FL (probably part of the problem) I thought I would take one of the top lights off to check for water. I found condensation on the surface of the light fixture! Part of my original problem was that the bulb base and the bulb receptical corroded badly. So....I took them all off and made sure they were dry and found that both top lights had condensation. So I put silicone around all the new lenses. Of course now I can't remove them, but I don't know what else to do, except hope for the best! I did put bulb grease on all of the metal contacts.
Do as I did, fill the crevice that the lens goes into with silicone. Let it cure then re-install the lens. The lens will compress the silicone when you tighten down on the screws for the lens. Will photos of what I did with mine help?

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Thanks...........I thought about that and know what you mean, but I didn't know if I could remove the silicone if didn't work. I think the bead I applied on the outside can be pulled off.
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