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Old 09-07-2014, 05:18 PM   #1
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Tail light filled with water.

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Just completed a 9000 mile road trip and encountered some great weather. After the occasional rain I noticed that the RR Tail lights were filled with water. I drained and reinstalled the 3 lenses thinking they perhaps hadn't been tightened on installation. After the next rain storm, my tail, brake and signal lights were out. Seems the lenses filled with cold rain water and the hot bulbs exploded on contact. For the remainder of the trip I drained them whenever it rained.

Any idea why this might be happening or what I can do to prevent this from happening again?
I have made sure there is no debris around the seal.
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Old 09-07-2014, 07:48 PM   #2
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There have been some reports of problems like this. You may need to apply some caulking to the top edge of the tail light lens. Or another solution is to change the taillights to LEDs. They are much brighter and a sealed unit. This is what I did:

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Top one is new LED. Bottom one is not yet changed. Here they are with LEDs for taillights and back up lights:

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Old 09-07-2014, 08:06 PM   #3
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Had trouble-------------

Had trouble with my rear running or clearance lights getting water inside, the ones across the top. Removed the red lens, cleaned inside. Drilled small hole in bottom edge of lens for drainage, re-installed lens, caulked
across the top seam to keep water out.

No more water.
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Old 09-07-2014, 09:17 PM   #4
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Common problem for a couple model years. I used bulb grease across the lens tops and drilled small holes to drain. Others have caulked or used RTV but that can make the lens hard to remove latter. As long as the water can't build up and splash onto the bulbs you should be okay.
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Old 11-07-2014, 11:11 AM   #5
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This happened to me as well after the first trip in the Sunseeker 3170 DS. Of course our first trip w/out brakes and turn signals was a bit terrifying, thankfully the wife was with the kids in the mini-van behind us. The dealer fixed it free of charge. I also re-caulked over the dealer. Not sure if it was water or bad lights but it sure wasn't right!
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Old 11-09-2014, 10:06 PM   #6
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Here is a link the the replacement LED's for the Bargman tail lights. They have a pigtail that simply plugs into the the existing light socket. Works well.
Amazon.com: Bargman 47-84-410 Red LED Upgrade Kit for #84/#85/#86 Series Stop/Tail/Turn Light: Automotive

There was also another thread on here about the problem. Here is that link.
Sunseeker drivers side tail/top/turn light anomaly
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:29 PM   #7
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I am told it is not a problem...apparently it is designed that way. I sent this up the river to the engineers at Bargman basically saying I was tired of the complaints. They call it a "drain and dry" design. They say if they seal it and water does infiltrate, then the water has no place to drain.
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The LED conversion is a great solution to the problem after-market. Could Bargman produce a product that could be used as an original install? I switched to LEDs as a safety factor. Almost got rear-ended on Interstate when stopped for crash. Car turned at last second and ended in the ditch beside my passenger door. The LEDs are 10 times brighter than the incandescents that come on the MH. The LED backup lights are also very bright which is great for backing into campsite in the dark. (See my pictures posted above.)


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Old 11-10-2014, 10:41 PM   #9
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We replaced our 3170 rear lights with the Bargman LED lights show in RvBill3's above post. Ours have no reflective properties, so we added stick on reflectors from an auto parts store. If you are careful, they look like they came on the unit.


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I am told it is not a problem...apparently it is designed that way. I sent this up the river to the engineers at Bargman basically saying I was tired of the complaints. They call it a "drain and dry" design. They say if they seal it and water does infiltrate, then the water has no place to drain.
They are right. It condensates inside the lenses from the moisture in the air with the warmth of the bulb.

We use to have alot of problems with the clear aftermarket lights that were real popular 15 years ago, holding water and discoloring or eroding the chrome inside. Our fix was to drill an 1/8th inch or smaller hole in the lower corners of each lense. Never had an issue and I did it proactively on every set i installed.
I dont think you have to go as big as an 1/8, but give it a shot.....unless your wanting the upgrade
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