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Old 11-25-2016, 08:17 PM   #51
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Fred, I would PM "Janet H" as her most recent post is the best I have seen yet. At least she is willing to admit that nothing is perfect. Three cheers Janet!!
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Old 11-28-2016, 09:43 AM   #52
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I will not be accessing this site during breaks or lunch any more from my work computer.

Whether it is our IT folks clamping down on outside tracking or the FRF site is more aggressive with its 3rd party tracking doesn't matter - the result is the same.

For my current job, I do a lot of supplier research and pricing on the web. I do not run into these issues on their sites. I run into occasional instances of 2-3 extra pages (consecutively in the same window) on some consumer sites, but no other site besides FRF causes 20+ extra pages.

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It has been a few years back but I found a cell phone at our local farmers market & none of us could figure out how to turn it on. We asked the 1st kid that walked by & she had it calling home in seconds (for the owner to come get it). You might be in that position too, a little hands on help goes a long way.

Please note that you should not be getting 2-3 extra pages opening let alone 20+. Both computers need some help.
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Old 11-28-2016, 10:56 AM   #53
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"It has been a few years back but I found a cell phone at our local farmers market & none of us could figure out how to turn it on. We asked the 1st kid that walked by & she had it calling home in seconds (for the owner to come get it). You might be in that position too, a little hands on help goes a long way"
What is it you are trying to say?
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Old 11-30-2016, 12:29 PM   #54
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I turned on the "trace" feature in Firefox yesterday to watch what was being loaded.


FRF loads first, and pretty quickly. As I said, I have third party cookies disabled in Firefox, and they are turned off at work in Internet Explorer by our IT folks. Third party cookies are used and read for advertising placement by third parties who pay to place ads. Google is the biggest and most common of the 3rd party ad placements - and I can see repeated access by Google web sites (as well as other advertisers) after the FRF page has loaded.


It is these third party sites that are linked to FRF that are slowing the FRF web page to a crawl, and giving me numerous page reloads. Apparently, the advertisers have turned up the aggressive behavior. When they don't find their 3rd party cookie on my computer, their web site keeps trying to load a cookie, and simultaneously refreshes the ads they are loading - hence a new/refreshed FRF web page while making my scrolling and/or replies very slow and unresponsive.


Sports sites tend to have the same issues. But businesses do not because it is more important for me to get my order through than it is to saturate me with ads.


Ad blocking is a sort of solution (only usable on computers I control). But even Ad Block is allowing certain ads to appear (those that pay Ad Block to get through) unless I spring for the "premium" version.


I could enable 3rd party cookies, and accept being tracked across the web and reported back to the cookie owner. Facebook and Twitter do this to anybody who has an account with them. Google tries to do this when you use Google to search.


My request is simply this: have Google and other ad placement companies scale back their use of 3rd party cookies and ad cycling on FRF.


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1st.I do not understand why you seem to be having all these issues with FRFs.
2nd. You must really like this site i would of simply left if it aggravated me as much as it does you. Kudos for hanging in there.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:40 PM   #56
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and 3rd. Most of us don't seem to have these problems. 4th. If the ads bother you that much start a fund so the site team does not need the ads.
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Old 11-30-2016, 02:12 PM   #57
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and 3rd. Most of us don't seem to have these problems. 4th. If the ads bother you that much start a fund so the site team does not need the ads.
X 2 I have never had issues using this site and have ad a block which cost me nothing and I never get one add when I log in. Sounds like issues at work messing up your ability to use this site on there dime. Later RJD
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1st.I do not understand why you seem to be having all these issues with FRFs.
2nd. You must really like this site i would of simply left if it aggravated me as much as it does you. Kudos for hanging in there.
I really do like the site. I have learned a lot, and made many improvements on my A-frame based on what I have learned. Some examples:
1) replaced my converter with a PD converter - the stock converter did not meet its own specs.
2) went to 6V golf cart batteries
3) installed a computer cooling fan on the fridge exhaust grill.

One of my next projects - which also came from FRF - is to install combination thumb latches/keyed locks on all the outside storage doors.

I just wish this site would work as well as it did a few months ago. But we all know how wishing with one hand works out. So I just access the site from home, and put up with the annoying page reloads.

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