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Old 10-21-2016, 08:16 AM   #1
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Site Team Member Closing A Thread

All Site Team Members,

I suggest all Site Team Members notify the original posting member by Private Message 24 hours BEFORE they close a Thread. This would certainly display some courtesy to the original posting member ESPECIALLY if they are a Senior Member.

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Old 10-21-2016, 12:37 PM   #2
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Camp4two:
While we understand your frustration at a closed thread and a 24 hour notice might sound like a good idea- it's not possible.

The site team nearly always discusses closing a thread in depth before actually closing one.
Many times a thread "runs off the rails" and becomes hostile, nasty, unfriendly or totally off topic very quickly. Waiting 24 hours would allow many more posts to be added which often must them be removed by our all volunteer crew in order to try and keep the peace.
A team member will usually post a closing remark in the thread to give
some clue why it's being closed.
Thanks for understanding!

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Old 10-21-2016, 12:58 PM   #3
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Please understand l'm no way frustrated. I strongly feel a Senior Member should be given the courtesy via a Private Message their original thread is about to be removed.

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Old 10-21-2016, 01:14 PM   #4
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Camp4two:
While we understand your frustration at a closed thread and a 24 hour notice might sound like a good idea- it's not possible.

The site team nearly always discusses closing a thread in depth before actually closing one.
Many times a thread "runs off the rails" and becomes hostile, nasty, unfriendly or totally off topic very quickly. Waiting 24 hours would allow many more posts to be added which often must them be removed by our all volunteer crew in order to try and keep the peace.
A team member will usually post a closing remark in the thread to give
some clue why it's being closed.
Thanks for understanding!

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Old 10-21-2016, 01:51 PM   #5
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Please understand l'm no way frustrated. I strongly feel a Senior Member should be given the courtesy via a Private Message their original thread is about to be removed.

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Forgive me for asking, but what would this accomplish? Threads are not closed indiscriminately. They normally get closed for clear violations of posting rules, either by the OP or respondents. Typically, the OP gets their question answered and then the discussion gets crazy enough to result in closure.

A closed thread does not disappear, normally; just additional replies are prohibited. If the thread/posts are egregious enough, it/they may be deleted or heavily edited and reposted. Again this is permitted (in fact required in some cases) as part of the site posting rules which everyone agreed to when joining.

Believe us when we say the Moderators take this responsibility seriously and try very hard not to abuse this "power". Actions such as thread closure or deletion are discussed at length before action is taken. If the posts are really bad, we "un-approve" them (or the thread) which removes them from the forum member's "sight" immediately while we discuss appropriate actions, edit the thread/posts to make them compliant, if possible, then repost the material in its original forum.

"Pre-notification of the OP" is not possible since, by definition, something is seriously wrong and action needs to be taken right away. Delays place the general community harmony at risk, either by encouraging further deviation from acceptable posting practices or by exposing our membership to links to hostile web sites (in the case of some spam posts/threads).

I hope this better explains why "pre-notification" or, in some cases, even "post-notification" is not possible. Please do not take this as an opportunity to open a debate on the subject. My post is just an attempt to answer your question as I do not see our (Social Knowledge FRF) position changing in this regard.

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Old 10-21-2016, 02:14 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Herk7769

"If the thread/posts are egregious enough, it/they may be deleted or heavily edited and reposted. Again this is permitted (in fact required in some cases) as part of the site posting rules which everyone agreed to when joining."


I strongly suggest that posts never be edited by anyone other than the OP.

It is one thing to delete a post, but editing a post ? Should be forbidden. IMHO

Is this really included in the "site posting rules"?? If so, I will not be posting here.
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:20 PM   #7
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We occasionally edit a thread.
If you post a fairly normal reply and say it included the F word we would
likely edit your post and remove the F bomb and your post would remain.
When we edit a post there is an automatic note at the bottom that says
it was edited by so and so....

We do not edit posts to change the meaning in any way.
Occasionally we'll remove snarky sentences but leave the remainder.

Other chat groups will simply remove your post totally with no explanation.
We try to be as light handed around here as possible.

If you are uncomfortable with this procedure then possibly this FRF is not
for you?
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:36 PM   #8
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KyDan,

Looks like you are in agreement. Deleting offensive words, snarky statements, or entire posts or threads is not what I would consider "editing".

You are right though, as long as moderators have the right to to edit (change the meaning) I don't belong here.
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Old 10-21-2016, 03:10 PM   #10
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As the site grows
Just to show how much FRF has grown since I joined in November of 2010:

I used the wayback machine website (I really like that site) and was able to see the homepage of FRF on November 14, 2010,


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and compared it to the homepage today.


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That's an average of over 12,000 new members per year or a 1000 per month.
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