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Old 03-30-2017, 08:44 AM   #1
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Play your Phone Video on your TV - Miracast

Hi folks,
Posted this to the Facebook Rockwood Mini Lite group, but thought it would be useful for the whole community.

I found a solution if you want to still watch Yoitube, Netflix, Amazon movies, or anything else from your cell phone to the Rockwood television. There were other threads on this forum, but too old to add to.

Use Miracast to display what is on your phone (video and sound) to the Tv and stereo. No need for creating a hotspot or building a WiFi network. It uses "peer to peer" wifi between your phone and the dongle.

Bought this dongle(link below) from Amazon and plugged it into the HDMI port on the front of the IRV unit at the Tv and the usb port to power the dongle.

Then use your phone's wifi window to find and connect with the dongle. Then use the "Cast" option (usually under your screen settings on the phone) to display your phone screen on the Tv.

Trial and error for the other settings (YMMV):
--TV source selected to HDMI
--Bluetooth on the phone off
--Stereo sound should be muted
--Control sound with the TV remote. On my Rockwood 2304KS, sound comes thru the soundbar, pretty good quality.

One other note, the resolution on the TV will be roughly the same resolution of the image on your phone, so if you may not get Dvd quality video. But for me, that's fine on a 24" TV across the room from the sofa!

Good luck!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Old 03-30-2017, 09:19 AM   #2
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Sounds neat. I have been looking for a solution for this in the past month. This is because Verizon has updated its product offering and gone to unlimited data to the phone including as unlimited HD video to the phone. Hot sport operation has a monthly 10 GB limit. I currently use Roku on my TVs.

As a result I have been planning on buying a micro USB to HDMI adapter for my phone. Sure this uses a cable and the solution that you have tried uses WiFi "peer to peer." If you are only going to do this when connected to your cellular network, then it should be fine. However, since it uses WiFi (yes and not a cable, but you will have to keep your phone connected to a USB or it will go dead anyway) you cannot get your bandwidth over a 2nd WiFi network. This might be fine but as of yet, it isn't the ultimate solution...although nothing ever seems to be.
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:36 PM   #3
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Hi Scott,
I looked at a wired solution first and had a micro-usb to HDMI connector from a prior project. But my current phone now has a usd-c connector that doesn't work with the wired connector, even with a -micro to -c adapter. Also, plugging the phone into the TV using that adapter (if it worked) means I can't control the video without walking over to the TV. I don't have other wifi needs in the trailer when I'm streaming video and my wife can still use her phone to for any data activitiy. You are right that the phone needs to be plugged in for power, but I can do that right next to me.

Not the optimum solution, not sure one exists. But we both have very workable and practical solutions, and that's the best news, eh?
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Right, it ain't perfect...yet. However, with unlimited data on almost all cell carriers, I have little doubt that we will soon get to a more ideal solution. Phones will dominate and so will wireless carriers. I am not throwing my Roku's away yet, but the availability of real time broadcasts on the web should continue to push it in that direction. But, like you, what cut one cord and install another?
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Old 03-31-2017, 01:59 PM   #5
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Hi folks,
Posted this to the Facebook Rockwood Mini Lite group, but thought it would be useful for the whole community.

I found a solution if you want to still watch Yoitube, Netflix, Amazon movies, or anything else from your cell phone to the Rockwood television. There were other threads on this forum, but too old to add to.

Use Miracast to display what is on your phone (video and sound) to the Tv and stereo. No need for creating a hotspot or building a WiFi network. It uses "peer to peer" wifi between your phone and the dongle.

Bought this dongle(link below) from Amazon and plugged it into the HDMI port on the front of the IRV unit at the Tv and the usb port to power the dongle.

Then use your phone's wifi window to find and connect with the dongle. Then use the "Cast" option (usually under your screen settings on the phone) to display your phone screen on the Tv.

Trial and error for the other settings (YMMV):
--TV source selected to HDMI
--Bluetooth on the phone off
--Stereo sound should be muted
--Control sound with the TV remote. On my Rockwood 2304KS, sound comes thru the soundbar, pretty good quality.

One other note, the resolution on the TV will be roughly the same resolution of the image on your phone, so if you may not get Dvd quality video. But for me, that's fine on a 24" TV across the room from the sofa!

Good luck!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
That's great! I purchased the Apple A/V adapter (iOS)a few weeks ago for at least twice the price. Your suggestion is much cleaner to use, not to mention the savings!
Thanks for your thread!!!
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My expertience is that when using miracast, I can not stream over the data connection only over Wi-Fi. Phone won't use data and Wi-Fi simultaneously. If I turn off Wi-Fi to access content on the data connection, I lose the miracast connection, because it uses Wi-Fi. Sense most camp ground Wi-Fi sucks trying to stream content from the MyFios app and watch it on the TV with miracast is very frustrating.
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My expertience is that when using miracast, I can not stream over the data connection only over Wi-Fi. Phone won't use data and Wi-Fi simultaneously. If I turn off Wi-Fi to access content on the data connection, I lose the miracast connection, because it uses Wi-Fi. Sense most camp ground Wi-Fi sucks trying to stream content from the MyFios app and watch it on the TV with miracast is very frustrating.
I use amazon fire stick and mirroring in android settings. I not sure if it works on apple phones.
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Old 03-31-2017, 06:05 PM   #8
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That is the problem with MiraCast, it uses peer to peer wifi to connect the phone to the TV dongle. It is one way to go, but we need better and will get it. Right now using the phone as a hotspot is probably best, but that means you need a Roku Apple TV or something like that to play the video. In addition, Verizon, on its unlimited plan, only gives you 10 GB hotspot bandwidth per month. Enough only for a few movies per month.

However, Verizon will give you unlimited HD streaming to your phone and a cable from the phone to the TV will do it. Not perfect, but you need to charge the phone anyway or it will die with any solution. Not perfect either, as an OP indicated that you have to go to the TV to change things. Perhaps a Bluetooth remote TO THE APP ON THE PHONE will be better. That way you have wireless remote capability. As of yet, no one does this but they could and probably will. Today's Roku stick remote is a BlueTooth remote already.

Then your phone becomes your Roku or Apple TV and has its own cellular network connectivity...and you have a remote for your phone sitting in a charging and output cradle by your tv. Heck you could even do an auto pause if it rings and answer it from the remote, just like you do from BlueTooth headphones.

With cellular going to unlimited and phones with 1080p at a minimum, Verizon talking about deals like AT&Ts DirectTV for live programming, everything is going to change and change quickly.
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That is the problem with MiraCast, it uses peer to peer wifi to connect the phone to the TV dongle. It is one way to go, but we need better and will get it. Right now using the phone as a hotspot is probably best, but that means you need a Roku Apple TV or something like that to play the video. In addition, Verizon, on its unlimited plan, only gives you 10 GB hotspot bandwidth per month. Enough only for a few movies per month.

However, Verizon will give you unlimited HD streaming to your phone and a cable from the phone to the TV will do it. Not perfect, but you need to charge the phone anyway or it will die with any solution. Not perfect either, as an OP indicated that you have to go to the TV to change things. Perhaps a Bluetooth remote TO THE APP ON THE PHONE will be better. That way you have wireless remote capability. As of yet, no one does this but they could and probably will. Today's Roku stick remote is a BlueTooth remote already.

Then your phone becomes your Roku or Apple TV and has its own cellular network connectivity...and you have a remote for your phone sitting in a charging and output cradle by your tv. Heck you could even do an auto pause if it rings and answer it from the remote, just like you do from BlueTooth headphones.

With cellular going to unlimited and phones with 1080p at a minimum, Verizon talking about deals like AT&Ts DirectTV for live programming, everything is going to change and change quickly.
It all depends on your source of video. What you call a problem is a feature for me. I get media via my call phone connecting to Youtube, Amazon, etc. I've heard wifi in campgrounds are not equipped or good for streaming. So the peer to peer wifi between my phone and the miracast dongle works very well. And fof $15 for the dongle, a cost effective solution. And no worries about hotspot limitations. I can use all the data to get media to my phone and then cast that over to the TV.

Again, options are wonderful!
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Actually we don't disagree, we agree. I prefer the phone as a streaming player, connected with broadband...a cable...rather than WiFi. 11080P, 4K, and on up. Campground WiFi is over. It never worked that well for streaming anyway. We will have streaming players with their own connection to the cellular network.

I just prefer to set the phone on the table...and use a BlueTooth remote to it. Otherwise no difference in our visions.
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