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Old 10-10-2012, 04:15 PM   #31
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Another rat in the race

I now understand that the feds are going to look into the situation. Most likely the feds will hit the oil companies with a fine, and pass that on to the consumer to……….round and round we go..........

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Old 10-10-2012, 04:29 PM   #32
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Had a diesel VW Rabbit once. Got 40MPG around town, 50MPG on the highway. Of course I had to turn off the AC when entering the freeway, vibrated my teeth loose and most of the fuel savings went into more frequent oil changes and a myriad of high priced filters for fuel and air. Fuel gelled one cold winter day and had to get a ride home and wait for a warmer day.

Of course that was 25 years ago....

Oh, yes, I remember that the trade in on KBB had a diesel engine Subtraction to reduce the value due to low demand...



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Old 10-10-2012, 04:42 PM   #33
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Not to argue to much but in this case. If I was the refineries I'ld have left too. Why operate in the red when other states are offering to help you move your whole operation, market research says you can make an instant profit in the new market, and your current state is just slapping fines left and right. Remember not one business person wants their business to just break even, I certainly don't.

Most of the wood finishing businesses (furniture and cabinets) have left the state for places like TX, FL, AZ, and UT. In many cases the states provided moving bonuses and 0% loans along with backing guaranties for repayment. as the Texas governor said a couple of years ago.

Governor: I love fishing in California I always bring back a few large ones.

Reporter: What type of fish do you go for?

Governor: Son, I don't fish for fish. I fish for businesses.

Once my house is paid off we're out of here. 8 yrs and counting.
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Old 10-11-2012, 10:07 AM   #34
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Well as usual the futures market is ramming it to the rest of us now Diesel price in Iowa went up to $4.18 over night. probaby be like this until after the election I figure. Then we'll see what happens when we start into a depression.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:54 AM   #35
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To answer the OP's original question. We just got back from a 12 day trip to the Lake Havasu area. Fuel is cheaper once you get out of CA. We will probably make more quick trips and get out of state whenever possible, but we got our trailer to use it and until we just can't afford it that's what we intend to do.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:17 PM   #36
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Another thumbs up for the GasBuddy app

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