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Old 10-25-2018, 04:20 PM   #1
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Our favorite destination just raised their rates about 37% for 2019 over 2018 charges. Iím questioning the reasonableness of the new rates, and would appreciate your input.

Hereís the campground scoop:
1. On the banks of a lovely small river in the Texas Hill Country (South-Central Texas west of I-35)
2. Family owned campground with about 30 30-amp sites and 10 or so 50-amp sites. Near very small town
3. Most campsites are spacious & shady
4. Four (4) of the 50-amp sites have full hookups
5. None of the 30-amp sites have sewer hookups
6. Sites are notoriously NOT level
7. Bathhouse can be described as rugged, at best
8. Poor WiFi
9. No cable or satellite
10. No cell phone service
11. Roads into & around grounds are narrow, pot-holed, and rough. In 50-amp loop, road/path isnít paved at all (grassy)
12. Electric utility is either 30- or 50-amp service only; no 15-20 amp service at all (except by extension cord from trailer).
13. In rainy conditions, very difficult to pull RV out of sites due to mud (no pavement except crumbling asphalt RV pad, and even that in only some sites)

Extra fees for:
Pets
Honey wagon service
Shuttle up-river to tube/kayak

New prices are $70/nite for most River-front sites; $75/nite for two of the River-front sites on the ends of the area (30-amp, no sewer). We paid $55 before our Good Sam discount this year

Used to be a multi-use campground, but disallowed tents beginning 1/1/17, adding 30-amp electric and going RVs only at that time. This is the reason we bought our TT, and why we bought when we did, so we have only been doing the RV camp thing a little over a year.

Similar, smaller campground in the area has many more amenities, fewer sites, but a little further (+200 yards) from river. The rates there are $61 for summer, dropping to $44 per nite after Sept 1 each year (havenít been there, just checked them out online).

Weíve been coming here for about 10 days a year for 21 years. DH camped here in a Pop-Up with his family when he was a kid. So, itís hard to think objectively about this place.
New ownership as of Feb., 2018. Owner says they plan lots of improvements; most will take about 5 years, they estimate. Not specific as to what those improvements will be.

So, what is your opinion?
What kind of conditions do you expect for a $75 per nite camp fee?
Are we fools to continue to vacay there?

Thanks!
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Old 10-25-2018, 04:25 PM   #2
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Supply and demand dictates pricing.
Sounds like they are confident that they can get the sites filled, at that price point.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:12 PM   #3
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WOW that is outrageous, are all campgrounds in Texas in that price range ? out favorite campground (in Tennessee) is on a beautiful little lake (7 miles long) excellent cell signal, paved roads, pretty level, out favorite site only and 1" out of level. close to town without the noise, 2 dump stations. $20.00 per night with the senior discount year round, now there are some expensive campgrounds around, Anchor Down is one but for the most part anything more than $40.00 to $50.00 would be high
For $75.00 per night i would have to have Full hookup, excellent cell and wifi i work sometimes when camping. perfectly level site and lots an lots of trees for shade, and a good lake to kayak on. even with all that i would still have a hard time paying those prices.
Honestly there is no way i would pay that for the campground you describe.

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Old 10-25-2018, 05:14 PM   #4
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You always have a choice not to go there any more. If they see bookings drop, they may lower prices, but I doubt it.

If you were a frequent guest and they know you, you may be able to get a "discount". If they won't give you a break, move on and be sure to let them know why.

We found that the campgrounds in my home state are a lot more expensive than neighboring states, so we hardly camp in-state anymore. I realize that you're in Central TX, so that is not an option for you.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:17 PM   #5
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A park we stayed at a couple years in the hill country raised their monthly rate by almost $200.00 a month over a 2 year period. We don't go there anymore. Several others don't either. No pool, no activities to speak of, small sites, gravel. There are much better values in the area. Time will tell if the rate increases were a good idea or not. That's why RVs have wheels.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:32 PM   #6
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Living in SE Arizona right now. 50Amp, 30Amp and standard 20amp on most sites, Good sewer hookups, good space between sites. Brand new 2 stall/room bath/shower facility. Lots of sightseeing opportunities, hiking, mountains, and other fun stuff, but no river access close by.
My nightly cost? $7.86
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The interesting point to this post is that the original poster is the only person that can truly determine whether the campground is 'worth' it, or not, only for them... none of us can do that.

The next camper that pulls into this campground, and pays the price to camp, is telling them that they have set a fair price.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:55 PM   #8
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RP53,
Thank you for your input. No, all TX parks are not priced like that, and we are finding this place is now going to be much higher than others in the area with at least level sites with Full hookups. My knee-jerk list of what Iíd expect for over $40per nite is much as you describe.

JayArras,
We donít know the new owners like we did the previous owners. The previous owners DID discount our stay, and waived our pet fee, because they knew what kind of tidy, responsible campers we are. We do not have that kind of relationship with the new folks, though we were there 11 days last month, and they got to know us to some degree. We booked our 2018 stay ($55/nite before discounts) before the sale.

We love this section of the river, and leaving this campground for future adventures will break our hearts a bit because of the history and memories we have there. But yes, our TT has wheels, and they canít raise the price on our memories of our good times.

It might be time to move on.

DH and I appreciate the comments & expectations from yíall.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:59 PM   #9
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x2 on demand drives price and if it irks you then I would stop camping there. We camp on average once per month (still working full time); I can't even tell you how much campsites cost at all of our favorite campgrounds because it doesn't matter. I just book and pay. Whatever the cost per night, it's still so much better than (and usually cheaper than) staying in a hotel.
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Old 10-25-2018, 06:18 PM   #10
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That is a lot for the Hill Country. We usually go to Buckhorn Lake RV Resort. It is a 10-10-10 rated park and it was $250 per week.
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Perhaps the reason the old owners sold the RV park is because they were going broke trying to keep it up and running...

And the new owners are much better bookkeepers and business people who know what it will take to keep it open.

I paid almost $80/night (after Good Sam discount) in Sedona, AZ back in August at a nice campground in town with full hookups...lots of shade...right next to a river (it has water in it during the monsoon season, anywayz)...I pulled in after dark but before 10 PM and they yelled at me for having my headlights on...and the campers continued to yell at me because I was using flashlights so I could see to back in and get set up...no pool or hot tub...I forgot to turn off my under-step little yellow light one night and the LED eyes (see photo below) another night and I got a 'ticket' with a warning on it both nights)...I could keep going on!

But it is what it is...

The weather was nice and it was where we needed to be (girlfriend's two sisters and elderly father were in town from east of the Mississippi), and I'll almost guarantee that the price was half of what the nearby low end of motel/hotel rooms in town were going for.

I'm sure there are many fellow Arizonians here that will know exactly what RV park I'm talking about...

Footnote: bottom shot was taken in Colorado, not in Sedona, Arizona...
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Location, location, location. Beauty is in eye of the beholder. If you're not impressed at that price then pass her by.
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Living in SE Arizona right now. 50Amp, 30Amp and standard 20amp on most sites, Good sewer hookups, good space between sites. Brand new 2 stall/room bath/shower facility. Lots of sightseeing opportunities, hiking, mountains, and other fun stuff, but no river access close by.
My nightly cost? $7.86
Is that a monthly rate?

I know in Elephant Butte, New Mexico where I was staying for a few weeks back in April it was $70/week or $140/month.

No pool or any amenities...but was a nice place to stay for awhile.

It was near Elephant Butte Lake, so fishing, boating and quad running...and sitting around drinking lots of beer was the draws for most of the visitors and regulars there.
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Old 10-25-2018, 08:18 PM   #14
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We are well aware we can (and maybe should) find another campground.

What I asked (or at least what I thought I asked) is ďWhat do you expect for $75 per nite?Ē
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I expect quite a bit for $75, BUT, that depends on location as others have said. If the campground is at a high tourist spot, it could easily command that price with little to no amenities.


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Old 10-25-2018, 08:47 PM   #16
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As a long time tent camper, but a soon to be newbie to RVs, I have a hard time with prices. What is the point of spending all that money on an RV PLUS $70 a night, when you could stay at a motel with maid service, cable, WiFi, plenty of clean towels and a hot shower steps away?

The more I research RV life, the less Iím finding it to be a fun get-a-way, and the more Iím seeing an expensive hassle. Iím sure Iím wrong, but lots of these posts make me nervous.
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Alsdas88, may I ask what campground you are at? Just curious about the pricing for future reference.
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Seems expensive for what you are getting.

We pay $55 a night for rugged pit toilets, 1 nicer comfort station for 100 sites and 30 amp and can not see our neighbours at all. Being as I am handicapped we do get a 1/2 rate.
Water taps are usually within 200 ft so my hoses work.
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Itís higher than Iíve ever paid but...if youíve been going there for 20+ years, you must really enjoy it.
For a 10 day stay, itíll cost you $150 more in total than before. Youíve probably spent that on a nice dinner that you didnít enjoy for that long!
Iíd just go for it. However, Iíd probably mention while there that you had to think twice about it and will check in how the updates are going before you book again
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The more I research RV life, the less I’m finding it to be a fun get-a-way, and the more I’m seeing an expensive hassle. I’m sure I’m wrong, but lots of these posts make me nervous.
I guess a lot depends on the part of the country you reside in. Prices are more expensive in the Northeast around densely-populated areas where you are almost better off at a hotel. Out West and in the deep South, I hear, prices are more reasonable.
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