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Old 05-02-2016, 04:35 PM   #51
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If the only difference between the F250 and F350 is an added leaf spring, that implies the wheels, axle, brakes, differential, etc. etc. are the same on both trucks. So, if I add air bags on my F250 to help the rear springs carry extra weight, I have an F350 equivalent, yes?

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Curious? I would think bags don't have the same load carrying capacity as overload springs. But I'm the one with the questions, not the answers. So I'm going to find out tonight. I'm speaking with the lead SD mechanic at my local Ford dealership.

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Old 05-02-2016, 04:37 PM   #52
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They support entire trucks on air bags so they CAN be just as strong I would assume. If given my choice and to play this mind exercise... I'd do the bags. They would let me (did let me when I had them) dial in the balance and ride to fit the load. Over load springs are either on or off.
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Curious? I would think bags don't have the same load carrying capacity as overload springs. But I'm the one with the questions, not the answers. So I'm going to find out tonight. I'm speaking with the lead SD mechanic at my local Ford dealership.

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Most kits are rated 5,000lb ea. @ 65psi. That's 10,000 pounds combined. They are plenty stout. I know some guys with 2wd dullies take out the helper when they install the airbags. Sometimes at ride height with bags, the helper spring will kiss the stops on bumps and can be real annoying.
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I put Firestone Ride-rite air bags on my 2500 Silverado with a on-board air compressor. I was pulling a long travel trailer and they didn't help, the truck hooked up rode level but I still got to much sway. That's one reason I went with the 3500, I just wish I had went all the way and got a dually. You can have to much trailer but you can't have to much truck. My 3500SRW is hard to park and I have to walk some, with a dually I would have just walked a little farther


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Most kits are rated 5,000lb ea. @ 65psi. That's 10,000 pounds combined. They are plenty stout. I know some guys with 2wd dullies take out the helper when they install the airbags. Sometimes at ride height with bags, the helper spring will kiss the stops on bumps and can be real annoying.
Just got done speaking with the mechanic at Ford. He said on the SRW 4x4 configuration everything is the same except for the overload springs and the sticker. He says that every 4x4 250/350 he has seen in the last few years has 4" (3 1/2) blocks. And he reaffirmed that if you add the same overloads or bags to the 250 that you gain the payload but legally you're still bound by the 10k GVWR and your registration fees will still be lower. ;-)

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Yep that little sticker is what makes it legal and I don't have to worry about being overweight in the event of an accident.

Hate the fact that I had a couple of dealers try to sell me a 3/4 and then told me just to add a leaf spring to get the extra CCC I needed.
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The Ford mechanic also told me he gets at least 10 of us 3/4 ton guys asking the same question every year. He said just suck it up and start saving for the 1 ton dually and end your worries. I told him I'm already doing that but I just want some piece of mind/buffer room for the next few years while I save for the big boy.

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How much more are the F350 than the 250? Here I could get a 3500 (if they actually had one) for $500 more bucks.
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How much more are the F350 than the 250? Here I could get a 3500 (if they actually had one) for $500 more bucks.
About the same here in the Detroit area. The problem I ran into last year when I bought my truck was all the 350 4x4 SRW trucks were basic work trucks and the one I found that wasn't was loaded beyond my price point at the time. I get A/Z plan so the other brands really can't come close to the discount I get with Ford. Didn't really want to wait for a build so I got my 250. It's great, I'm happy and within limits. But like I said I'm saving for the loaded dually in a few years knowing what I know now about how quickly weight can add up. As my kids get larger I'm going to run out of payload.

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Just got done speaking with the mechanic at Ford. He said on the SRW 4x4 configuration everything is the same except for the overload springs and the sticker. He says that every 4x4 250/350 he has seen in the last few years has 4" (3 1/2) blocks. And he reaffirmed that if you add the same overloads or bags to the 250 that you gain the payload but legally you're still bound by the 10k GVWR and your registration fees will still be lower. ;-)

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I need to upgrade my signature to F350 then. I have the camper package and overload springs. Also rear sway that stops the hop on bumps or uneven payment.
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