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Old 02-20-2015, 04:53 PM   #1
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Need help with Math please

Ready to give one of these two dealers a deposit:

1) 2012 2304s $13500 out the door, local dealer

2) 2015 2304s $17500 out the door, new w/warranty, 5hrs drive away

option 1 appears very clean, low use, comes with a WD hitch (no ladder).
option 2 has the extra exterior doors and a ladder.

I can't figure out which is the better deal? I do know I never planned on spending much over 13k, any idea what either one would be worth in a year of two from now?


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Old 02-20-2015, 05:11 PM   #2
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#1 will be most likely close to the 13.5. #2 will be close to the same amount in 6 months on a trade in.

The main question is which one can you afford.

warranty is 2 yrs for FR products, do you need or want the extra door? Our Hemi came without the ladder. Since I go on the roof maybe 2x / year, an aluminum extension ladder (already in the garage) works fine and saved me a couple of $$.

WD hitch can be up to $800 if the 2015 doesn't come with it.
See if the dealer will deliver the 2015 at no cost -- to make the sale.

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Old 02-20-2015, 05:12 PM   #3
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The 2012 no matter how clean is old. The 2015 gives you warranty and second year warranty for 150 bucks.

2012 worth 8 -10 k plus more issues
2015 worth 15 -15 k still has warranty
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:42 PM   #4
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13.5 is quite high for a 2012.. no matter how clean it is. I would keep looking, try to get them down to more like 10.5-11k, or blow the budget and go for the 2015.
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Old 02-20-2015, 05:53 PM   #5
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Just my opinion here but it all depends on the used unit.

My 2010 is still in great condition with many upgrades. If I had to sell it I would expect a premium price. Due diligence will show value in a used camper and many new units "off the lot" can have issues as we sometimes see here.

HOWEVER, a new camper has that "new car smell" and you just can't put a price tag on that. (That new car smell may be formaldehyde though )

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Old 02-20-2015, 09:58 PM   #6
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I just received a price drop on a used 2013 2304s ten hours drive away, down to $13300 otd.

I think the only logical way to do this is go by NADA values (low retail, no options)
2014 2304s = $17000
2013 2304s = $15350
2012 2304s = $14000
2011 2304s = $13000 (extrapolated since 2012 was first year for 2304s)

Using this method, in one years time, the new 2015 should be worth $17000, the 2013 worth $14000 and the 2012 worth $13000. I am going to tack on $500 to the one 5 hours away and $1000 to the one 10 hours away, for the trouble of picking them up.

One big unknown is the real condition of the 2013 10 hours away. Too bad, because it looks like the best value. Especially when factoring in money lost to interest. Still a really tough choice! I hope I choose the "good one" in the end.
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Old 02-20-2015, 10:36 PM   #7
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You kind of have to take NADA prices with a grain of salt. Ie., I just looked up my 2012 rig and NADA shows it listing at $4000 more (low retail) than I actually paid for it in 2012... and $5500 more in average retail.

Back in 2012 I looked at the same model at a number of dealers and their prices only varied by $1200... so it wasn't like I just found an earth shattering deal.

Short story.. don't expect a rig you pay $17500 for today to be worth $17000 a year from now.
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From what you have said, both trailers are 5 and 10 hour drives away. I assume you are relying on photos, etc. While the 2012 unit is cheaper what isn't being shown and no warranty. If you can afford the 2015 unit would be the way to go. New trailer, no concealed damages and a warranty. Work on the dealer, try for a better price and a good W/D hitch. Mention that by going to him involves a 1, 000 mile trip each way.
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Old 02-21-2015, 12:42 PM   #9
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Last year we nearly bought a new 2109S. After dragging our heels a little because of the cost we found the identical unit only 1 year old that had been used 3 times for sale privately. After close inspection we jumped on it and saved over $4,000 dollars plus the tax on that amount. It also came with the WD hitch. We have been very happy so far.
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Look it up on Kelly blue book or on NADA . You can usually talk them out of more on the used this time of year tack on 2000$ for an after market warranty because used you want one not knowing what the previous owner did with it.

Think about things before you do them make life easier not harder.
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