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Old 04-07-2015, 12:57 PM   #181
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Personally i am not a campfire.person.. I woukd rather a concrete "jungle camp"..
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Old 04-07-2015, 01:24 PM   #182
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GLAMPING means that after exhausting ourselves swimming, hiking, biking, fishing, etc. we can fix an easy meal (outdoor kitchen) & rest in our comfy beds... Not having canvass sides, like popups & hybrids, means we can sleep through the night - even when heavy rains force our tent-camping neighbors to pack & go in the middle of the night. (Our TT is pretty quiet with the windows closed & A/C fan running - we don't even hear next door neighbors come & go - and you know how loud some can be especially when they are cursing at the rain & their kids who are running every which way in the dark...)

Friends & family claim they could never afford the camping lifestyle, but they routinely drop $35K on new mid-size SUVs or minivans... For LESS than that price/payment we have a (slightly used) roomy 2-slide TT & (used) 3/4 ton TV combo. I'm very happy we skipped the "entry level" popups & hybrids & went straight to something we will keep a while...
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Old 04-07-2015, 02:05 PM   #183
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Glamping vs Camping....

We'll take the other side of the equation.

As I found with owning boats, the bigger the boat, the less it tends to get used. Watching the RV storage lots, I think the same holds generally true for RVs. People on this forum are likely an exception, being more dedicated to using their RVs than most.

Understanding our interests and available time, we bought the 17ft A-frame (2014 Rockwood A122) that stores in the garage, ready to go. 30 minutes to pack food (in coolers) and clothes for a weekend, which go in the minivan tow vehicle (also fits in the garage, which is a good thing in the Colorado sun and winters). Add the EZ-up for the picnic table, 2 folding chairs, hook up the camper, and we are on the road.

30 minutes at the campsite for complete setup (or teardown). We can fit into any site with reasonable road access - don't need hookups unless the temps are too hot to be comfortable without air conditioning (then we only need 20A electric). This lets us take the secluded and shaded sites in the back - if we want - with privacy from the neighbors.

For us, camping is about being outdoors. We cook, eat, and lounge at or near the picnic table, and the minivan is readily available for sightseeing or traveling to the marina or any other day or night activity. The A-frame provides a dry, peaceful place to sleep at night, or read or talk while waiting out a thunderstorm.

Our next trip will be to Lincoln, Nebraska for dinner with our son, and attending a U of Nebraska baseball game and spring football scrimmage. We chose to camp because availability and price of hotels for the long weekend more than makes up for the cost of the campsite and extra gas used while towing. Also, we can take the dog in the camper vs finding a neighbor to take care of her ($15 per day).

Different strokes for different folks...

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Old 04-07-2015, 03:48 PM   #184
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I think it's great that folks enjoy camping with smaller gear & maximize their fun fitting-in places where the big rigs won't fit... However, I don't think it costs any less anymore... IMO it's hard to find a used popup/hybrid that doesn't have leaks... When we were looking at them, I couldn't find one without prior damage...

IMO today's NEW popups & hybrids are pricey because they do try to pack them full of features, including slide-outs... We started-out looking at new popups ($13-$15K) and Hybrids ($15K-18K) but then realized we could have a (used) full-size TT with 2 slides for not that much more... My (used) 2011 Ram 2500 actually cost less than a (used) 2011 Accord, so IMO it just comes down to gas.

I burn about $800 more per year on my daily commute than when I had the Accord... IMO that's a small price to pay to tow what I want. IMO our minivan will also live a lot longer because towing is hard on them... (We have 180K on the Odyssey with no issues whatsoever...)
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Old 04-07-2015, 08:38 PM   #185
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I priced out a trip down to Disney world 3 ways, take the trailer and stay at Stone Mtn, Fort Wilderness and a KOA on the way home, drive the minivan and stay in a hotel/motel each way and stay at a Disney World hotel or fly and stay at a Disney hotel. We took the trailer. In the end it was only $300 more with the trailer, the big thing was I wasn't limited to a balcony and could take a walk through the campground, not much of a walk in a hotel. And for the extra $300 we got to see Stone Mtn.

And we had our own bed and no one poisoned us while we were sleeping!
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Old 04-08-2015, 03:06 PM   #186
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IMO it's hard to find a used popup/hybrid that doesn't have leaks
I've got one without leaks.
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:50 PM   #187
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I like being outdoors. That is pretty much it in a nutshell for me and DH.

Some trips warrant a motel. They are convenient.
But, when time allows, an RV and the outdoors is better than anything.
Always can find ways to cut costs. I am happy to camp in state parks at a lesser price.
Spring is here in Ohio. Ready to get the camper out of storage, cleaned up, loaded up and hit the campground!!! And I am lucky enough to be retired so I can go whenever i
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Old 04-08-2015, 08:03 PM   #188
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Spring is here in Ohio. Ready to... hit the campground!!!
We're from the Akron area & are meeting some other families at a nearby campground this weekend. We never got-away like this before we had he TT... The cost for 2 nights won't be any more than we spend eating-out 2X... In fact, we're actually eating-out less throughout the winter because we figure each meal is another night's stay at a campground...
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Old 04-08-2015, 08:13 PM   #189
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Camping is a lifestyle

There is no question that camping is more expensive. But it is a lifestyle we all love.

Me. I like small as I prefer to pull a smaller unit than a bigger unit. But at $18K for the pop up and $40K for a used SUV to pull the unit. It sure gets expensive. I envy the tradesmen who already have the F350 for a TV. For them the biggest part of the equation is taken care of. For the rest of us? We have to pay dearly for what we love.

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Old 04-08-2015, 08:30 PM   #190
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This is worse than trying to compare apples and oranges. The two are not even remotely related. Each lifestyle has it's benefits and disadvantages.
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