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Old 07-08-2016, 10:25 AM   #11
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Camco made in China. Not sure if P.I. is or not.
Everything with Camco on it is a hit and miss product. Its just rebranded imported stuff. Some good, some not so much. I like the Camco deflappers and some of the sewer products but I have bought enough Camco stuff over the years to know I would never buy anything electronic with that name on it.

As far as Joules thats all a marketing ploy the same as decibel ratings on a genny. Their are many different methods/formulas used to come up with the number that go's into a specification or on a box. I'll believe one is better than the other when I know they used the same method to determine it.

If you want to be cheap, then be cheap. I have had PI stuff on 3 different trailers and now on the 4th. I wouldn't recommend anything else and their customer service is outstanding. Power Protection and electrical is Progressive Industries only business. They do not sell paper towel dispensers, garbage cans, patio mats, tacky lights, and toilet paper.
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Old 07-08-2016, 10:38 AM   #12
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Everything with Camco on it is a hit and miss product. Its just rebranded imported stuff. Some good, some not so much. I like the Camco deflappers and some of the sewer products but I have bought enough Camco stuff over the years to know I would never buy anything electronic with that name on it.

As far as Joules thats all a marketing ploy the same as decibel ratings on a genny. Their are many different methods/formulas used to come up with the number that go's into a specification or on a box. I'll believe one is better than the other when I know they used the same method to determine it.

If you want to be cheap, then be cheap. I have had PI stuff on 3 different trailers and now on the 4th. I wouldn't recommend anything else and their customer service is outstanding. Power Protection and electrical is Progressive Industries only business. They do not sell paper towel dispensers, garbage cans, patio mats, tacky lights, and toilet paper.
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Started with a SurgeGuard, ended up installing a hard wired Progressive and haven't look back. While some compare prices of different makes or models just remember you typically get what you pay for.
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:12 AM   #14
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Camco made in China. Not sure if P.I. is or not.

Brand Progressive Industries
Item Weight 4 pounds
Product Dimensions 17.1 x 5.6 x 5.1 inches
Origin China
Item model number PT30C
Manufacturer Part Number PT30C
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So much for Progressive being an American made product
anymore, now who has the last laugh?
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:20 AM   #15
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Please do not mislead fellow RVers by saying that Joules is just a marketing ploy for it isn't, Just like a circuit breaker, each are designed to operate effectively a set number of times. When it comes to a surge protector, the higher the joule rating, the more times the surge protector will handle an over or under voltage condition.. maybe you are loyal to a specific brand even though it has a lower joule rating and a higher price but I will choose the product that offers the most most protection the most number of times.

now who has the last laugh?
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:22 AM   #16
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Brand Progressive Industries
Item Weight 4 pounds
Product Dimensions 17.1 x 5.6 x 5.1 inches
Origin China
Item model number PT30C
Manufacturer Part Number PT30C
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So much for Progressive being an American made product
anymore, now who has the last laugh?
As I said, I didn't know.

For sure, do get something that protects your unit.........
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Old 07-08-2016, 11:37 AM   #17
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I'll be the dissenter here...In 20 years of RV travel in California, the West Coast and across the country, through six different rigs, I have never used or needed to use any power protection device. Granted, I have not been to big rallies with questionable power, or skanky old campgrounds in the middle of Summer with everyone's AC going full blast or anything like that.


But: Some people swear by them, just not everyone. I do not think they are essential. To me, the risk is very low. YMMV-Good Luck!
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I'll be the dissenter here...In 20 years of RV travel in California, the West Coast and across the country, through six different rigs, I have never used or needed to use any power protection device. Granted, I have not been to big rallies with questionable power, or skanky old campgrounds in the middle of Summer with everyone's AC going full blast or anything like that.


But: Some people swear by them, just not everyone. I do not think they are essential. To me, the risk is very low. YMMV-Good Luck!
Well, I get that........

but........

I haven't ever had to use my life insurance yet, either! But I still have it...LOL
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Brand Progressive Industries
Item Weight 4 pounds
Product Dimensions 17.1 x 5.6 x 5.1 inches
Origin China
Item model number PT30C
Manufacturer Part Number PT30C
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So much for Progressive being an American made product
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When it comes to a surge protector, the higher the joule rating, the more times the surge protector will handle an over or under voltage condition.. maybe you are loyal to a specific brand even though it has a lower joule rating and a higher price but I will choose the product that offers the most most protection the most number of times.

now who has the last laugh?
Won't matter the Joule rating after a lightning strike. They're both probably toast.

Now, I think whatever online retailer the origin info came from is wrong. PI's website states they are made in the US.

Just glancing at the two units, it looks like the PI model has a number of features the Camco doesn't (but not a lot) for the price difference. It has digital amp and volt readouts, error codes (current and previous ) and, if it's like my hardwired unit, the surge board is removable and can be replaced without having to buy a new unit which is much cheaper. I believe it also kills power for open neutral/ground and reverse polarity, whereas the Camco shuts down for over/under voltage and just warns for the rest. It's a little more expensive, but has a few more bells and whistles.
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My P.I. will not even feed juice if it's an open ground........

and again, I know nothing about the other unit, not trying to compare.
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