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Old 07-08-2016, 07:40 PM   #31
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It's a gift.

You should see my face................

(P.S., I absolutely get a HUGE kick out of the tete-a-tete on this site, on all these subjects. I really get bothered when they shut a thread down. I love it. Plus, if you look past all the hoopla, there is a TON of true information to glean. Danged information costs me a ton of money here!!!! LOL But it's great to have. 99% of the back and forth here is based on the concept of "I don't have the best, I got stuck with X, so let me try and explain to all you noobs why X is absolutely peachy keen to use and let me justify my ownership of X"................)

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Old 07-09-2016, 12:22 AM   #32
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It's a gift.

You should see my face................

(P.S., I absolutely get a HUGE kick out of the tete-a-tete on this site, on all these subjects. I really get bothered when they shut a thread down. I love it. Plus, if you look past all the hoopla, there is a TON of true information to glean. Danged information costs me a ton of money here!!!! LOL But it's great to have. 99% of the back and forth here is based on the concept of "I don't have the best, I got stuck with X, so let me try and explain to all you noobs why X is absolutely peachy keen to use and let me justify my ownership of X"................)


Nail on the head.

I couldn't afford/justify the best, so here's my awesome, third place.

Hard wired 50a Pi ems in my basement. Love it.


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Old 07-09-2016, 12:29 AM   #33
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I am fairly new at this and the DW asked about surge protection after searching reviews on the internet still confused are these things worth the investment? the best i can tell the less expensive units are worthless what do yall think
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Old 07-09-2016, 08:37 AM   #34
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Camco does not offer lifetime warranty. "Prove it"
Camco is not the best deal.
Made in China

Progressive is the best deal
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Common sense tells me not to weigh in on this but can't help myself.....so something is the best deal if it is made in the USA? Or something is the best if it is a lifetime warranty? Or is your arguement that lifetime warranty and as a bonus it is made in the USA? So if a surge protector came in a transparent case with no manufacturer name and numbers but the spec sheet showed it was superior, keeping in mind lab testing so apples are compared to apples, would you buy it not knowing its origins of manufacture?
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:16 AM   #35
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Don't mean to hi-jack this thread but l'm just a dumb pipe fitter. A friend of mine has a portable pi unit and told me he read it said not to be used with an inverter generator. True or false?
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:33 AM   #36
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Common sense tells me not to weigh in on this but can't help myself.....so something is the best deal if it is made in the USA? Or something is the best if it is a lifetime warranty? Or is your arguement that lifetime warranty and as a bonus it is made in the USA? So if a surge protector came in a transparent case with no manufacturer name and numbers but the spec sheet showed it was superior, keeping in mind lab testing so apples are compared to apples, would you buy it not knowing its origins of manufacture?
common sense tells me your just looking to argue. PI is clearly the most popular brand, and for good reasons. I don't care where it's made. It does the job better than any other product. The fact they are the only ones who back it up with a lifetime warranty shows they have confidence in their product, because they make one product and do it right.
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Common sense tells me not to weigh in on this but can't help myself.....so something is the best deal if it is made in the USA? Or something is the best if it is a lifetime warranty? Or is your arguement that lifetime warranty and as a bonus it is made in the USA? So if a surge protector came in a transparent case with no manufacturer name and numbers but the spec sheet showed it was superior, keeping in mind lab testing so apples are compared to apples, would you buy it not knowing its origins of manufacture?
I go for best reputation to handle the job im looking to get done, within a certain price range. But will go up in my price range if needed to.

PI has the best reputation from all I've seen, and they are priced right around where many others are.

.....plus.....its saved my camper, so that holds up its quality reputation!!!
USA made is a plus!
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I sorta care where it's made. In fact......and I'll admit it....I'd buy a slightly inferior product if it was made in the USA. But origin is 2nd on my criteria, I have to admit.

I have a PI, it has worked flawlessly and done it's job, and it's saved my bacon, and I don't care what it cost.....and honestly, I don't even know or care where it's made, other than yes, the USA is a big plus to me.
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so something is the best deal if it is made in the USA? Or something is the best if it is a lifetime warranty? Or is your arguement that lifetime warranty and as a bonus it is made in the USA? So if a surge protector came in a transparent case with no manufacturer name and numbers but the spec sheet showed it was superior, keeping in mind lab testing so apples are compared to apples, would you buy it not knowing its origins of manufacture?


YEP!
You can't argue with made in the USA.
Nor can you argue with lifetime warranty.
I really don't see the problem.



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common sense tells me your just looking to argue. PI is clearly the most popular brand, and for good reasons. I don't care where it's made. It does the job better than any other product. The fact they are the only ones who back it up with a lifetime warranty shows they have confidence in their product, because they make one product and do it right.
Nope....don't wish to argue...but I had a thought it would go that way.

The Op posted his/her original question was about surge protectors, what are they, are they worth the money....please help. It went from that question to which version of Progressive Industries was the best. So right now I will drop the caveat that I own a progressive industries product but I bought mine on my knowledge of stereo electronics and household electricty and I bought the best to save my expensive stereo. I then put the same rational in RV's and protecting them with a surge protector. I bought the PI version as it was on sale and the other local dealers stocked Camco and Surge Guard...if the other dealer had the Surge Guard on sale I probably would have bought that one. There were none made in Canada (sic). yes I can think of three times where my surge protector saved my expensive asset...one being on my own houses front plug.

I saw this discussion was starting to lean towards the trailer tire discussion that all tires made in China were junk therefore everything coming from China is junk. So tongue in cheek I posed my comment of country of manufacture. So back at me, if a surge protector was equal to all others (quality and price and warranty) and came from Canada, would I buy the Canadian version, you bet! But the Op posing the question wants to know quality/function vs nationalism.......yes I am done.

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