Upgrading to 8289WS - Need Advice

[Skippy38]

Went to look at an 2016 8289Ws and the DW fell in love with it. I want to upgrade also so it is not a big deal. Pulling with a Ram 2500 HD 6.4L/4.10 gasser so I am good there. Please check my numbers below and let me know if I am in the ballpark:

Dealer: MSRP $48,329.75. Came down to $39,500 immediately (18.2%). Giving me $8k for my trade in which is not bad. OTD price $33,457.

My thoughts: MSRP $48,329.75, come down 35% to $31,413, Give me $8k for my trade, OTD price approx. $25,370

Compromise at MSRP $48,329.75, back off to 30% to $33,830, give me $7k for the trade, OTD price approx. $27,787

Unit has only 1 a/c, they want to charge me $800 for another one in the front. I have cash so financing is not an issue but I COULD let them finance it because they make money on that also. What do you think? Am I asking for too much of a concession here?

[CaptnJohn]

They seem to like financing so I let them ~~ for about 6 - 9 months.

[Skippy38]

That was my thought exactly. I KNOW that they make a commission if they finance it so I was gonna let them do it, then pay it off in a year or so.

I am really surprised that they let me walk out of the dealership. Now I can negotiate by phone/email....

[CaptnJohn]

The dealer I use is not high pressure as they are confident in their price. If they have the unit you like you will have to travel far to find a price close. The person I use is not paid commission. The dealership gets a commission on the loans from BoA. The rate is less than some of my investment return so letting them hold it a while is OK.

Originally Posted by Skippy38

That was my thought exactly. I KNOW that they make a commission if they finance it so I was gonna let them do it, then pay it off in a year or so.

I am really surprised that they let me walk out of the dealership. Now I can negotiate by phone/email....

[heavyodie]

When I bought my 2015 8289 we got 33% plus top dollar for our trade.

[Skippy38]

The good part about this is that I am not in a hurry to buy and am willing to walk away if I dont get the deal I want

[RangeMaggotBob]

Originally Posted by Skippy38

Went to look at an 2016 8289Ws and the DW fell in love with it. I want to upgrade also so it is not a big deal. Pulling with a Ram 2500 HD 6.4L/4.10 gasser so I am good there. Please check my numbers below and let me know if I am in the ballpark:

Dealer: MSRP $48,329.75. Came down to $39,500 immediately (18.2%). Giving me $8k for my trade in which is not bad. OTD price $33,457.

My thoughts: MSRP $48,329.75, come down 35% to $31,413, Give me $8k for my trade, OTD price approx. $25,370

Compromise at MSRP $48,329.75, back off to 30% to $33,830, give me $7k for the trade, OTD price approx. $27,787

Unit has only 1 a/c, they want to charge me $800 for another one in the front. I have cash so financing is not an issue but I COULD let them finance it because they make money on that also. What do you think? Am I asking for too much of a concession here?

I don't know about your final price, but you definitely want to get that second AC- especially if you live in Florida. From the sound of it you probably already have the 50 amp service. I think $800.00 is reasonable. Just make sure it's the 15,000 BTU. The one in the bedroom is probably 13.5. I'm really surprised there isn't one in the front. Never heard of one in the bedroom only. Of course, I'm just guessing on all this worldly advice!

[Witch Doctor]

I Think which is bad, That if you can get it in the ball park of 32,000 you are doing good, how much is your trade in, really worth? That's about the price for a 8289 WS. As far as the A/C if the unit is not pre wired for the second A/C That is a good price. Most come 30 amp unless they are wired for the second A/C then they have 50 amp. So not knowing that it's hard to say if 800.00 is alot, it's alot if already a 50 amp unit and I really doubt that, you might want to ask that, most come 30 amp 1 A/C. It also depends on where you do your camping, I come to Florida in the winter months, 1 A/C works fine in the summer it would be a different story. Make sure he is talking about adding it to your duct system and not just a bottom dump unit. You can never have to much A/C in a trailer, but you could get by with 1. and if it's pre wired you can add it later if needed. But just saw your from Florida, so that whole option might be out. If you camp in your neighborhood you know you would want that 2nd A/C. I stopped at the Melbourne County CG on the way to Florida City. Nice County park you have there. Good Luck sounds like your doing your home work. Offer him 32,000 OTD and he installs the second A/C free. That is still a good deal for this trailer. You picked a very nice and comfortable model. Very little problems with this model as this forum go's.

[Todouble]

What is your trade in? Is it worth 8k?

[Skippy38]

Originally Posted by Todouble

What is your trade in? Is it worth 8k?

Trade in is in my sig, Catalina 24FBS. In doing my research I think that $7-8k is a fair price for my trade. Dealer started at $7k for my trade then went up to $8k. Also the 8289 is stock 30 amp with one main A/C unit in the living area and a fan in the bedroom so it is most likely NOT prewired for the second A/C. Of course the main unit is ducted all over the coach in every room. Most of our camping is in FL but in getting this model we will be traveling all over the place

[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by Skippy38

Trade in is in my sig, Catalina 24FBS. In doing my research I think that $7-8k is a fair price for my trade. Dealer started at $7k for my trade then went up to $8k. Also the 8289 is stock 30 amp with one main A/C unit in the living area and a fan in the bedroom so it is most likely NOT prewired for the second A/C. Of course the main unit is ducted all over the coach in every room. Most of our camping is in FL but in getting this model we will be traveling all over the place

Well they are going to need to do some extra wiring from 30 to 50 amp plus pull new stat wire and probably will have to replace the convertor. So $800.00 is cheap. It always best to get the most A/C as possible. I know they had a increase in price for most 2016 units from the factory. If I could get that 2nd AC installed and walk out at 32,000 I think that would be well worth to look at. I don't think you would get it cheaper from a wholesaler. Good Luck....

[doc73]

could be wrong but my bet is they will not be replacing a convertor or making things 50amps for 800... They will prob just wire to an auxiliary outside 20amp plug. Make sure you know exactly how they plan to do your install...

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[PhoneDude 8289]

We have 50 amp with the 2nd A/C in the bedroom, in Texas it's a must have. We spent a month in the Colorado Rockies this past summer, there were several days we used and needed the second A/C. On hot nights it's nice to run the living area A/C with the bedroom A/C off. Nice and quiet in the BR with the ducted units. If I remember correctly we spent $36,500 for ours out the door, tags and taxes included, no trade in.

[Flybob]

X2 on getting a detailed explanation of what they are doing for $800. That sounds like they are adding an AC for bedroom only and wiring into existing wiring, meaning you you can only run one at a time.

[Skippy38]

Great point on the 2nd ac. It really is a must have for me in FL. I am pretty knowledgeable about the wiring in these so they cant put one over on me

[5picker]

Originally Posted by Skippy38

Went to look at an 2016 8289Ws and the DW fell in love with it. I want to upgrade also so it is not a big deal. Pulling with a Ram 2500 HD 6.4L/4.10 gasser so I am good there. Please check my numbers below and let me know if I am in the ballpark:

Dealer: MSRP $48,329.75. Came down to $39,500 immediately (18.2%). Giving me $8k for my trade in which is not bad. OTD price $33,457.

My thoughts: MSRP $48,329.75, come down 35% to $31,413, Give me $8k for my trade, OTD price approx. $25,370

Compromise at MSRP $48,329.75, back off to 30% to $33,830, give me $7k for the trade, OTD price approx. $27,787

Unit has only 1 a/c, they want to charge me $800 for another one in the front. I have cash so financing is not an issue but I COULD let them finance it because they make money on that also. What do you think? Am I asking for too much of a concession here?

I think you are going to wind up somewhere between 'your thoughts' price and your 'compromise' price.

We recently ordered and purchased a Flagstaff 8529IKBS which is the sister to the Rockwood 8299BS. Both are just a slight variation on the 8289WS you are looking at.

Our MSRP was $55,185.00 and we paid less than the out the door price you quoted in scenario one with a $10k trade.

[Todouble]

Originally Posted by gljurczyk

Well they are going to need to do some extra wiring from 30 to 50 amp plus pull new stat wire and probably will have to replace the convertor. So $800.00 is cheap. It always best to get the most A/C as possible. I know they had a increase in price for most 2016 units from the factory. If I could get that 2nd AC installed and walk out at 32,000 I think that would be well worth to look at. I don't think you would get it cheaper from a wholesaler. Good Luck....

I can't see them upgrading all that and a new ac for 800 bucks. I would bet there doing it the cheapest route and just adding a 20 amp plug or cord.

[lswartz]

I think I would take a look at something like RVW & just order it the way you want with 2 15k AC's & 50 amp service. Is there any chance that you could sell you old one yourself? We priced our old TT to sell & it sold on the 1st weekend. You need really good pictures & to be in the camping season for this to work.

[Rsharrer]

We live in California and bought our 8289ws from Wana RV in Shipshewana, Ind. picked it up July 5, 2013. The deal included five nights at the nearby fairgrounds RV park. We also took a tour of the nearby factory. It was the best deal we could find at the time, $31,000. $33,000 out the door. We love the layout and have about 15,000 miles and 150 nights in it so far. Because it is an Ultra lite, the insulation in the walls and ceiling is minimal. We did not get the second AC and probably should have. However, that second AC would have increased the height and made it impossible to park under our RV cover.

[Skippy38]

I am thinking $31,500 out the door and they do the a/c upgrade and 50 amp upgrade would be a pretty good deal. Sound about right?