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Old 01-07-2019, 09:05 AM   #1
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would this keep you from buying a new truck

What do you think?
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Old 01-08-2019, 09:04 AM   #2
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Old 01-08-2019, 11:58 AM   #3
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What do you think?
On a new $60K vehicle, a $1K registration is not that out of line with other states that imose property taxes on vehicles. Our last new $30K vehicle cost about $500 to register in Colorado - over half of that is property tax..

The big question is what happens to the registration fees in future years? In Colorado, it drops off with the value of the car, so in a few years I am down to $100-$200 per year. Are some of the fees listed one-time only, or are they every year?

Another big question is what is the difference between registering a new and a one year old used vehicle.

Sales tax is sales tax, and varies by state - and in some states by city and county.

Really not enough information to say whether it is totally out of line with other states. And California has a reputation as a high tax state, even when I was living there 15 years ago.

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Old 01-08-2019, 12:06 PM   #4
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What do you think?
Well...

$4,350 is sales tax. That's normal.
$391 license fee for new vehicle. That's normal too.

All in all, your registration looks to be about $631 for a $60,000 vehicle.


EDIT:
Also... This is a COMMERCIAL vehicle registration. Yeah... this is right in line.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:10 PM   #5
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I see that is listed as a commercial vehicle. Is that due to size or is it really being registered for commercial use. I think a lot of state charge higher fees for commercial use. I guess another question would be is it a one time fee or an annual? I wouldn't want to pay that every year, but I would probably pay it one time.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:37 PM   #6
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Commercial registrations are always higher.
Out of line?... I think not.
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Old 01-08-2019, 12:48 PM   #7
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Not sure why I had to click on a waiver on an "emotional" issue to post to this thread.

I don't think the vehicle in question is a commercial vehicle by definition. I doubt you need a CDL to drive it based on the weight.

But for fun (!) and since it's lunch time I ran the California model checking Automobile rather than Commercial vehicle and it looks about the same from a dollar standpoint.

But it is what it is. Gotta pay to play.

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On a new $60K vehicle, a $1K registration is not that out of line with other states that imose property taxes on vehicles. Our last new $30K vehicle cost about $500 to register in Colorado - over half of that is property tax..
In CO, the taxable value of the vehicle is 85% of the MSRP. Note that this is MSRP and has nothing to do with what you paid. Then, the registration percentage you pay of that taxable value is a sliding scale for the first 4 years of that vehicle's life at 2.1%, 1.5%, 1.2%, and 0.9%. For all other years, it is 0.45%. And, then, there is a flat registration fee that depends on county and vehicle type ... and can range between ~$70 - $120.

So, a $60,000 vehicle in CO will cost the following to register, assuming a $100 registration fee:
  • New: $1,171
  • Y2: $865
  • Y3: $712
  • Y4: $559
  • Y5+: $330
This doesn't include any other taxes and fees, such as bridge fees, road fees, and such. It also depends on how well the clerk sets up your MSRP, as I've tended to pay less than these figures based on my vehicles' actual MSRPs.

Here are the other registration fees:
  • Title Fee: $20
  • Title Other Fee: $7.20
  • Base: $3
  • Clerk Hire: $4
  • Motorist Insurance Database: $0.10
  • Emergency Medical Services: $2
  • Bridge Safety Surcharge: $23
  • Road Safety Surcharge: $28
  • County Road & Bridge: $1.50
  • License Plate Material: $1.89
  • Year Tab Material: $0.17
  • Month Tab Material: $0.11
That's about $62 of recurring annual expenses on top of the other bits.

Anyway, that gives you a sense for how CO taxes private vehicles in terms of registration.

Sales tax is, of course, a one time payment at the time of purchase. In CO, we have state, county, city, and special taxes. When sales taxes get discussed, CO always looks good when compared to other states, because it has a state sales tax of 2.9% and that's as far as the top-level comparisons extend. Smoke and mirrors. Most people pay at least double that, due to the county/city/special sales taxes. Obviously, it varies quite a bit here. Where I live, I have no county or special taxes and low 2.5% city tax. So, I have an effective sales tax rate of 5.8% on my vehicle purchases. Drive 8 miles into Boulder County and the effective sales tax rate is about 9%.

Again, this isn't a complaint. It's just a data point for comparison purposes. Enjoy.
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I noticed the GVWR was over 10,001 lbs so its not a 1/2 or 3/4 ton truck....It's one of the reasons if you live in CA and you don't really need a larger truck it's going to cost you more for registration based on the GVWR your weight fee is more $$$.

A one ton truck is going to cost you more than a 3/4 ton and a 3/4 ton is going to cost you more than a 1/2 ton to register something to consider in the State of CA.
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Those figures are for a one ton truck, since it would be used for towing it is commercial in CA, everything is annual except of course sales tax and the value of the vehicle does drop by their determination on just that one item. The legislature has already approved an increase in the fees that goes into effect later this year. The commercial aspect here is determined buy whether or not the truck has a bolted on camper. That would even apply to 1/2 ton.
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