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Old 10-30-2013, 08:40 AM   #11
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Nats, does the Ultragauge draw any power when connected and ignition is off? Where and how did you mount it?
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No, it goes to sleep when the ignition is turned off, at least it doesn't appear to. The only connection is through the OBDII connection.

I mounted it directly above the center of the steering wheel on the dash using their horizontal surface mount.

I also used a low profile 90 degree OBDII connector cable to allow the fuse panel door to be closed with it connected.

I have my Solera in storage now or I'd take a photo for you.

I didn't get it until later this summer so I have not yet calibrated it for fuel consumption accuracy, DTE, etc. It is nice to see some of the other parameters like engine load, turbo boost, exhaust gas temperature, etc.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:36 PM   #12
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JFYI. The OBDll port is an energized socket that supplies power to the accessory plugged into it. There will be "sleeper" draw while connected to the port.want to know how much? Here ya go. How to Find and Stop Car Battery Drains DIY Car Battery Drain - Popular Mechanics
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Old 11-06-2013, 02:29 AM   #13
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Latest update from MB dealer, overfill or loose fuel cap probably triggered indicator. Sensor failure did not occur. It can take a few hundred miles for system to reset itself but it will if that was the problem. I think I'm learning???????
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:51 AM   #14
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My last TV had the check engine light on a couple times. After scanning the codes it was thought to be topping off the fuel tank. The extra fuel was feeding back into the emisions system and setting it off. Who would of knew.
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:24 AM   #15
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My last TV had the check engine light on a couple times. After scanning the codes it was thought to be topping off the fuel tank. The extra fuel was feeding back into the emisions system and setting it off. Who would of knew.
Many manufacturers are pretty adamant about not over filling the tank. I have had two cars that would do this. Once it clicks once or twice i stop.
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We had that occur on a previous motorhome and it turned out to be the gas we had gotten at a small gas station that probably had water in it. Added a bottle of additive and fresh tank of gas and problem light went out after a few miles
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Old 11-06-2013, 07:23 AM   #17
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dealer is full of it.dis-connecting the battery may reset it. cycling the key will do nothing.
Actually- on my car the code set by a "loose gas cap" is reset after 3 engine
starts IF the cap has been tightened. This may have nothing to do with
this discussion or it may be relevant.

BTW there are engine code scanners out there for under $20 if you just
want to know what the code is for and maybe reset it.
Here's one- Newegg.com - MS300 Code Reader Check Engine Light Reset Tool OBD2 OBDII CAN

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Old 11-06-2013, 08:35 AM   #18
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Actually- on my car the code set by a "loose gas cap" is reset after 3 engine
starts IF the cap has been tightened. This may have nothing to do with
this discussion or it may be relevant.

BTW there are engine code scanners out there for under $20 if you just
want to know what the code is for and maybe reset it.
Here's one- Newegg.com - MS300 Code Reader Check Engine Light Reset Tool OBD2 OBDII CAN

Good Luck!
The code for that is a PO 442 iirc small leak detected. Or it could be another code which is a gross leak detected depending on the condition of the gas cap. Or the sill across the gas cap sealing surface can be cracked. It will also not illuminate the next morning when you key on a crank it up. When the engine coolant temperature and the ambient air temperature equalize it will recheck for that code. It could stay on for days If the engine coolant temperatures never equalized.

And it will probably not clear from the history code data for at least 50 ignition key cycles.
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Old 11-06-2013, 01:02 PM   #19
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I hear you but my wife got a check engine light.
She drove several miles to work with it on.
She tightened it at work as I told her to.
She drove many miles home.
Next day the light was ON as soon as the engine started.

I pushed in hard while clicking the cap again.
Surface of the filler neck is clean and smooth and so is the seal on
the cap.
3 starts later the check engine light is off.....
I donno if it's 3 or 4 or what but -the check engine light- will go off
if this condition is "fixed".
BTW I always push and turn this cap. Every once in a while we get
this. I tried to get the dealer to replace the cap under warranty
but he just cleared the code and sent me home.
Service manager told me to never go more than 1 click on the cap.
If I do that, the light comes on nearly every time.....
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I hear you but my wife got a check engine light.
She drove several miles to work with it on.
She tightened it at work as I told her to.
She drove many miles home.
Next day the light was ON as soon as the engine started.

I pushed in hard while clicking the cap again.
Surface of the filler neck is clean and smooth and so is the seal on
the cap.
3 starts later the check engine light is off.....
I donno if it's 3 or 4 or what but -the check engine light- will go off
if this condition is "fixed".
BTW I always push and turn this cap. Every once in a while we get
this. I tried to get the dealer to replace the cap under warranty
but he just cleared the code and sent me home.
Service manager told me to never go more than 1 click on the cap.
If I do that, the light comes on nearly every time.....


If you continue to get a PO442 (small leak detected) or the gross leak detected code and the gas cap O-ring looks good and the seal surface looks good you may have a leaking purge solenoid or vent solenoid. They will clear it and let you leave because they know it won't come on again until an overnight sit. I click mine numerous times. (GM products) . Sounds to me like they are to lazy or incompetent to fix it. Maybe I missed it what kind of vehicle is it. A lot of GM trucks have a purge /vent solenoid where the bed and cab come together and they get Dust in them and they often have a small leak code. You can replace the solenoid or you can disassemble it and clean it On some models. The Purge vent solenoids are usually under the vehicle which is obviously a very dusty environment. I would suspect that if you keep having the code and you know the gas cap is in good condition. They can also run and evaporative test right there in the service drive with their scan tool And see if the vacuum decay happens fast enough to illuminate the service engine soon light.

Please don't misunderstand this for me trying to be a know it all I'm actually just trying to help you out because it sounds like they are just bumping you. Good luck


After giving it some thought I can see where continued clicking could possibly twist the O-ring and cause it to leak. However that has not been a problem for me. But I'm going way out on a limb on that one.
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