Coachmen Prism 2150 LE Or Solera 24S? 2014

smggsm · 07-29-2013, 07:11 PM

Almost paid RV-Direct deposit for 24S then i came across this

Prism - Coachmen RV

PRICE 2k cheaper than the 24S SOLERA
+ you will get
1- outside entertainment with tv
2- wood floor
3- 50 gal fresh water
4- upgrade ac fridge
5- corner bed is wider than most of the corner bed RVs
6- 20 gal propane tank

smggsm · 07-29-2013, 08:03 PM

just got off the phone with local dealer ,Apparently this made by Forrest river too

**bclemens** · 07-30-2013, 08:23 AM

To each his own...but a few notes...

2. That's not wood flooring. That is vinyl flooring with a woodgrain print.
3. That is freshwater including water heater...so really 44 gallons of fresh. Which also happens to be 367 lbs. You'l find most people don't travel with full water due to weight.
4. What is an "upgrade AC fridge"? We all use LP/Electric fridge.
5. Not wider...just longer (but the coach is 25' compared to 24'6" as well)
6. that is nice

Another thing to remember if you're comparing apples to apples. most dealers quote the Solera with the SE package. The Prism LE is a stripped down version. The Solera SE is an upgraded version and will have...
-Glass LED lighting throughout (not plastic).
-Frameless windows
-Fiberglass Front cap
-Fiberglass roof
-Gas AND Electric water heater (Prism is gas only)
-Soft touch ceilings
-woodgrain dash
-hidden hinges
-raised panel cabinets in wall AND base cabinets
-GPS navigation
-drawers in the dinette. Prism you have to lift up the seat cushions.

There may be more...but that's what I can remember off the top of my head.

**bclemens** · 07-30-2013, 08:24 AM

Just so you know...RV Direct is not my dealer. So I have no skin in this game. Just want to make sure you are fully educated. In the end...you typically get what you pay for.

Taylorgso · 07-30-2013, 08:53 AM

Larger FW tank, Larger Propane tank, extra 6" length, outside entertainment center - looks like added weight to me, and with my big butt i'd be over gross weight once I climbed in.

I'm wondering if there are other areas where they may have cheapened the Prism. As you say, compare Apples and Apples. We do have the SE edition Solera. Hope the OP will get a chance to physically do a walk-thru of both before he makes up his mind... I'd hate to be the one who tries to save $2K, then find out it's worth a whole lot less!

**bclemens** · 07-30-2013, 09:00 AM

Edited to be less mean.

gerrym51 · 07-30-2013, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smggsm

just got off the phone with local dealer ,Apparently this made by Forrest river too

forest river just about owns everybody(only partly in jest)

**bclemens** · 07-30-2013, 09:21 AM

Lippert owns everybody else. (not in jest). If a supplier comes up with something new...they buy the company.

Between Thor, Forester River and Lippert. That probably 90% of all suppliers and builders.

Taylorgso · 07-30-2013, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bclemens

Edited to be less mean.

"Aw, come on, man" - let's see your mean side!

**bclemens** · 07-30-2013, 09:42 AM

I'll let the facts speak for themselves. No need for me to put down the competition.

smggsm · 07-30-2013, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bclemens

To each his own...but a few notes...

2. That's not wood flooring. That is vinyl flooring with a woodgrain print.
3. That is freshwater including water heater...so really 44 gallons of fresh. Which also happens to be 367 lbs. You'l find most people don't travel with full water due to weight.
4. What is an "upgrade AC fridge"? We all use LP/Electric fridge.
5. Not wider...just longer (but the coach is 25' compared to 24'6" as well)
6. that is nice

Another thing to remember if you're comparing apples to apples. most dealers quote the Solera with the SE package. The Prism LE is a stripped down version. The Solera SE is an upgraded version and will have...
-Glass LED lighting throughout (not plastic).
-Frameless windows
-Fiberglass Front cap
-Fiberglass roof
-Gas AND Electric water heater (Prism is gas only)
-Soft touch ceilings
-woodgrain dash
-hidden hinges
-raised panel cabinets in wall AND base cabinets
-GPS navigation
-drawers in the dinette. Prism you have to lift up the seat cushions.

There may be more...but that's what I can remember off the top of my head.

Thank you so much for your reply ,

TO compare apple to apple the LE edition 2150 acording to the delaer and the build sheet has all that even more like
outside entertaiment center fiber glass, GPS, BACKUP CAMERA WOODEN DASH 6 Gallon Gas /E.I. Water Heater,carefree flooring see etc.. this link and scroll down to the LE
Features - Prism - Coachmen RV
plus you can get diesel generator

smggsm · 07-30-2013, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bclemens

Just so you know...RV Direct is not my dealer. So I have no skin in this game. Just want to make sure you are fully educated. In the end...you typically get what you pay for.

i know who u are you helped alot before with my 2010 solera .. im here im just trying to get the best deal for my need ... BTW rv direct not even a dealer they are brokers
you opinion very valuable for my decision

**bclemens** · 07-30-2013, 10:09 AM

The LE doesn't list those on that spec sheet. Dealer may buy it that way, but its not listed on the specs.

As for the water heater that is Gas/E.I Which means Gas with Electric Ignitor. Not actually an electric water heater.

The Solera is DUAL gas element (EI) and an electric heating element. So that when you are at a camp site you use the sites electricity to heat the tank and not just propane. Or you use both gas and electric to increase the recovery rate.

Should say "Gas/Electric EI water heater. Not just "Gas EI" water heater.

**bclemens** · 07-30-2013, 10:10 AM

RV Direct is a dealer. They just use an different name online.

smggsm · 07-30-2013, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bclemens

The LE doesn't list those on that spec sheet. Dealer may buy it that way, but its not listed on the specs.

As for the water heater that is Gas/E.I Which means Gas with Electric Ignitor. Not actually an electric water heater.

The Solera is DUAL gas element (EI) and an electric heating element. So that when you are at a camp site you use the sites electricity to heat the tank and not just propane. Or you use both gas and electric to increase the recovery rate.

Should say "Gas/Electric EI water heater. Not just "Gas EI" water heater.

oh i see ,, this might explain why the have 20 gal propane tank

the 50 gal water fresh, longer corner bed , entertaiment out side and specialy the U dinete with option 5 seat belts these got my attention ..

can you get 4 seat belt option in solera? better solution for car seat?
is solera roof all fiberglass now?

GaryTucker · 07-30-2013, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smggsm

Thank you so much for your reply ,

TO compare apple to apple the LE edition 2150 acording to the delaer and the build sheet has all that even more like
outside entertaiment center fiber glass, GPS, BACKUP CAMERA WOODEN DASH 6 Gallon Gas /E.I. Water Heater,carefree flooring see etc.. this link and scroll down to the LE
Features - Prism - Coachmen RV
plus you can get diesel generator

Unless the unit you are looking at is already built and has the diesel generator-you won't be getting one. Onan discontinued the generator that is listed in the brochure. From what I read a new supplier for the forest river conglomerate hasn't been found.

smggsm · 07-30-2013, 12:36 PM

they have 2 units one with diesel and one with propane 3800$ diffrent
when i learned that the propane tank 20 gal im thinking of getting the LP
and save money

**bclemens** · 07-30-2013, 02:03 PM

We stopped using the diesel due to quality issues...which is why they relocated the plant from what I understand.

Roof is fiberglass. We're working on a U-shape model, but it will be a few months.

smggsm · 07-30-2013, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bclemens

We stopped using the diesel due to quality issues...which is why they relocated the plant from what I understand.

Roof is fiberglass. We're working on a U-shape model, but it will be a few months.

this great news , the solution to my problems with kids on board is U DINING TABLE i think it fit more people thanthe reugular dinete
if 24R come with u dinete solera will have lead over the prism their 24G 2 slide design low profile no bed

so will be available decemeber 2013?
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smggsm · 07-30-2013, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bclemens

We stopped using the diesel due to quality issues...which is why they relocated the plant from what I understand.

Roof is fiberglass. We're working on a U-shape model, but it will be a few months.

fiberglass roof is this just started recently? i dont think my 2010 has it

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