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Old 01-03-2014, 08:59 AM   #51
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Imo the progressive dynamics out performs the wfco in all areas hands down.
Price point considered its probably the same or less after you figure in the reliability of the wfco.



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Old 01-03-2014, 10:16 AM   #52
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There are a few things we look at when weighing any decision. 1. is it better, or are there other concerns that get raised now? 2. What does it cost? 3. Is that cost worth the perceived value? 4. Can I sell it?

Obviously I see some value there and things that I can sell. But I need to be sure at the end of the day, the average buyer doesn't say "well I don't really care about that".
A first time buyer is not going to be aware of "quality" issues - they are more likely to make price comparisons and let that dictate their decisions. I speak from experience; after deciding on floor plans we like, we've then looked at units in our price range. We bought a Solera after making some feature comparisons with Winnie View, and at substantially lower price we found the Solera to be a much better value. Obvisously, there were trade-offs, and the converter may be one (have no idea what they put in a View).

We would all like to have every imaginable feature, and top of the line everything, but that's unrealistic. FR does a great job, though. They've upgraded to LEDs etc. because of consumer demand, and maybe from our input on the forum. I wouldn't bet against a converter upgrade, either. BClemens has always been our advocate.
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Old 10-12-2014, 01:32 PM   #53
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I would like to chime in at the end of this long thread. Thinking back to the original problem that I now have:
converter running, lights dimming and the converter buzzing!
Is it batteries or a converter?
Did the converter replacement solve the problem?
Not sure how to test this without returning it to the dealer.






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Old 10-12-2014, 01:45 PM   #54
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The first sign I had of mine not charging the battery was the idiot lights on the panel for the battery strength would never get to full even when left plugged in for days in the driveway with nothing on.
I'm no electrician but what I did was disconnect the battery cables and hook my battery tester up to them. Is showed barely 12 volts was getting to the battery.
I could of done the warranty thing and went through all the trouble of taking it in and have another piece of junk put in but I opted to upgrade to a Progressive Dynamics converter.
Simple install. Took about 20 minutes in my driveway. I've taken it out since and my lights got brighter and of course it shows full charge on the battery.


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Old 10-12-2014, 01:53 PM   #55
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Thanks for the quick reply.
My idiot lights only go to three?
If that is conclusive then I guess I have a trip to the dealer. I think my extended warranty should cover a replacement...
My rig is it 2012 S; batteries could be suspect!



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Old 10-12-2014, 02:10 PM   #56
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Thanks for the quick reply.
My idiot lights only go to three?
If that is conclusive then I guess I have a trip to the dealer. I think my extended warranty should cover a replacement...
My rig is it 2012 S; batteries could be suspect!



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I had a WFCO converter. After doing a little interweb homework I found out that they are pretty much junk which is the same thing I read on this forum. If you take it in and they find out it's the converter I would spend a few dollars upgrade to a better one since the labors free.


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Old 10-12-2014, 02:34 PM   #57
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I would like to chime in at the end of this long thread. Thinking back to the original problem that I now have:
converter running, lights dimming and the converter buzzing!
Is it batteries or a converter?
Did the converter replacement solve the problem?
Not sure how to test this without returning it to the dealer.






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JamesR I will try and attach a trouble shooting guide for the WFCO converter, if it's the unit spend the 35.00 more and buy a progessive, It will be a true 4 stage charger and also has 2 cooling fans with a wizard attached. Hope this helps you will need a multimeter. Also attched is the progressive Direct replacement. Good Luck I think this is a true statement that FR is now installing them in the FR3.
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Old 10-12-2014, 02:34 PM   #58
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Thanks for the quick reply.
My idiot lights only go to three?
If that is conclusive then I guess I have a trip to the dealer. I think my extended warranty should cover a replacement...
My rig is it 2012 S; batteries could be suspect!



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Buy a battery hydrometer and check your batteries. That way you will know where you stand with them. The wafco converter has a trouble shooting section in their manual, which is pretty simple to check. But, before you tackle that, there is a really nice mod to the '12 S to gain much easier access to that area though the large storage bay passenger side rear.There is a post in the mod section with pictures. I subsequently used a different access panel to gain quicker entry.
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[QUOTE=JamesR;718020]I would like to chime in at the end of this long thread. Thinking back to the original problem that I now have:
converter running, lights dimming and the converter buzzing!
Is it batteries or a converter?
Did the converter replacement solve the problem?
Not sure how to test this without returning it to the dealer.




If you have a volt meter put the meter leads on the battery if it is charging the battery it should read real close to 13.8 volts DC. If not then their is a problem not getting enough power to the battery.
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Thanks to all!
I'll let you know the outcome after I've done this testing...


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