Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-12-2014, 08:35 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 534
Low Point Drains / Cold Weather Camping

I'm heading out next week for some cold weather camping. Though I expect daytime highs to be in the forties and fifties, I also expect overnight lows to be around 20.

I think the tank heating pads and a bit of antifreeze will keep the waste side thawed out. I think the mass of the fresh tank, and it's location under the bed, will keep it from freezing. And I think that keeping the interior heated will protect almost all of the pex plumbing.

But I'm quite concerned about the low point drains. They're just hanging out there, with neither heat nor complete insulation, and seem likely to freeze. Any thoughts on how to protect them???

Thanks!
__________________

__________________
DaveJordan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2014, 09:24 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Witch Doctor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Clarksville Va.
Posts: 7,615
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveJordan View Post
I'm heading out next week for some cold weather camping. Though I expect daytime highs to be in the forties and fifties, I also expect overnight lows to be around 20.

I think the tank heating pads and a bit of antifreeze will keep the waste side thawed out. I think the mass of the fresh tank, and it's location under the bed, will keep it from freezing. And I think that keeping the interior heated will protect almost all of the pex plumbing.

But I'm quite concerned about the low point drains. They're just hanging out there, with neither heat nor complete insulation, and seem likely to freeze. Any thoughts on how to protect them???

Thanks!
Yes go to lowes or HD and get some silver insulation it a roll, cut some off and wrap them. If you have an outdoor shower add two pieces to the inside behind the plastic door.....
__________________

__________________
Rockwood #8289 WS 2012
F250 6.0 / Husky 16k
With 4 point leveling system
Witch Doctor is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2014, 09:47 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 12,005
Yes,go inside the unit and cut the Pex lines and Place shutoff valves,then OPEN pex lines to the outside! The LPDrains that are in the (Outside) WILL Freeze! Youroo!!
__________________
youroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2014, 11:36 AM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,748
Whoa, slow down. Don't be carving up your pex system. Just do a temporary insulation wrap like the previous poster suggested, like you stated, the daytime highs are sufficient to keep your system intacted as designed. Just sayin'
__________________
Still Kickin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2014, 12:29 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Waynesville
Posts: 12,005
I didn't know you people had a Crystal ball on Temp! I know if done proper the LPDrains will (Not) freeze! Can you say that with (Unknown Future Low Temps)? Camp On! Youroo!!PS Have you ever heard (I didn't think it would get (THAT Cold)!
__________________
youroo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2014, 12:34 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,748
Lets assume he is correct, daytime highs in the 40's and 50's. Save the carving for the Thanksgiving Turkey!

Oh, that crystal ball is baked into weather modeling data, sattelite., etc. that besides a miss now and then, hits the temp ranges with astonishing accuracy.
__________________
Still Kickin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2014, 12:48 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 534
Well, ok.

I went looking for somewhere to install shutoffs to the low point drains...I'm sure it's doable, but I couldn't find where the lines split off from the lines going to the kitchen sink - they appear to be buried below floor level...somewhere. I'll take another, better, look, but so far I don't think the shutoff approach is something I can do myself.

And then I got to thinking about the shower connection - it, too, needs a shutoff and, again, I couldn't find a place where I could do it.

So here's my latest thinking - Antifreeze! My current plan is to run antifreeze through the system until it comes out the two low point drains and the outside shower. Then I close them up...and don't use them until warm weather returns. With a little luck...with no water flowing to any of the exposed spots...the antifreeze will just hang around in place and prevent any freezing.

Any thoughts on this approach?

Dave
__________________
DaveJordan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2014, 02:02 PM   #8
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Missouri
Posts: 27
I removed my low point drains due to freezing concern. I cut out the tee and replaced with an elbow. I have a 24R and gained access by removing the drawer under the sink and I removed the heat vent in the step area. It was still hard to reach but we made it.

I also put insulation behind the door to the outside shower.

In regards to putting antifreeze in the low point drain and shower I would think this would mix with water flowing by, especially the low point drain. I certainly would not drink or cook with the water from the kitchen sink if I did this.

I did find an open heating duct to the area around the fresh water tank and water filter so running the furnace should help keep this area warm.

I winterize by both blowing out the system and putting antifreeze in the pipes so I don't need the low point drains.
__________________
Eric99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2014, 09:23 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
hkreck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Iowa
Posts: 1,190
One thing not all RV's are the same, I believe we're talking about a Solera here which has very tight areas for pumping and hard to get to. May not be able to place shut offs on some of the things other RV's are able to.
__________________
Henry & Tena
2013 Solera 24S
The Great Escape
hkreck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2014, 07:45 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Mikegjax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Orange Park Fl.
Posts: 1,326
My 2014 24R low point drains are accessible just behind the step well from under the side of the coach. Lay on my back and look up under the side. Easy access.
__________________

__________________
2014 Solera 24R
USN Retired
Mikegjax is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
camping, drain

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:01 PM.