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Old 10-15-2015, 05:53 PM   #251
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It would be a great design feature if they designed one with an on/off switch or maybe an invention where the wiring/ device was hooked up and attached to towed vehicle rear bumper, like the brake lights. Inventors anyone?????
Dear Mtnlvr and Mr Clemens...a few observations for what it's worth(?)...

Mtn: I agree with what you did and what you said...esp. re backing those behemoths into "any" (really) kind of a space. Even with my BU-cam on my
Solera, and big mirrors it can become a daunting challenge to back up even in daylight. The BU cam DOES NOT cover the rear entirely and without a spotter you risk damage...MANY of you will agree with me here, no matter what!
Again...thanks for the RVProNet lead...mucho appreciated!

BC: I disagree with you on the "most people tow" thought which would invalidate offering the sensors as an option on current models? There are MANY RVr's that I see out there W/O toads and whom refuse to do this anyway because of the safety issues, the cost of it all, the loss of gas mileage, hard to backup...etc, and so on and so forth. Now, I would add these as the FIRST option if I was buying new but in spite of not having them yet am still happy with my used, sensorless 2011 and it's great little Mercedes diesel. I think they should be offered as standard issue on the newer vehicles plus back-up beepers ("look out back there, here I come ready or not!?), or at least with the option and with on\off switches if need be. A lot of newbies, whom I'm thinking of, simply do not realize the challenge of backing these beasts up safely and efficiently. Anyway, that's my respectful 2 pennies and hopefully the powers-to-be will latch onto this idea in the near future (with your help) and start making this an option and our RV's safer yet!! Money SHOULD NOT be the issue here in the production of these sensors. Cheers.

PS: Wait...there's more! BC- I remember you helped with the idea of getting FR to start making the Hellwig sway bar an option, so why not these in the name of MORE safety? Just sayin'...okay, now...CHEERS.
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:08 PM   #252
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Pixelbum1; Well said!!
I travel solo and do not have a "spotter" for help. Many us us buy the smaller class C's and do NOT tow so we can be spontaneous, park most places and get into the State Parks, smaller spaces.
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Old 10-15-2015, 06:17 PM   #253
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Ps- my rear bumper, back up motion sensors include a small 2"x3" screen that rests on the left corner of my dashboard. It shows/ flashes how many feet away from contact and which area, while it beeps in reverse.
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Old 10-15-2015, 11:01 PM   #254
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You have a back up camera that shows you the entire back of the vehicle and the proximity to any obstruction(s) behind you, assuming it's positioned correctly. It boils down to when in doubt, stop the vehicle, get out and walk the perimeter. B Clemens is right, FR has the tools installed for the safe operation (backing up), in that situation IMO.
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Old 10-16-2015, 02:50 AM   #255
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IMO, a motion sensor is more precise than a back up camera at night.
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Old 10-16-2015, 08:57 AM   #256
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IMO, a motion sensor is more precise than a back up camera at night.
You left off the part about walking the perimeter. This isn't a whats better, the intent was to introduce a method of safe reverse travel, based on the standard equipment offered on FR products. If your waiting for sensors, and the field guy explained FR's current position, your going to hit some stuff waiting on it. Just sayin'
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Old 10-16-2015, 11:04 AM   #257
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You left off the part about walking the perimeter. This isn't a whats better, the intent was to introduce a method of safe reverse travel, based on the standard equipment offered on FR products. If your waiting for sensors, and the field guy explained FR's current position, your going to hit some stuff waiting on it. Just sayin'
Wait a min...it's a matter of what is SAFER! I'd bet that you would use the sensors if they were already installed in a unit that you were about to buy or at least consider the option if offered, right? Come on now Kickin!

Mtn brought up another good point that I forgot about and that is re those who travel solo or do not have a spotter available...albeit the walk around that you mentioned is a good one too!

Look, the more safety devices we have on these
wheeled whales, the better and one which could be another SELLING feature for FR's Solera. If anybody could pull this off for future buyers, than it's Mr. Clemens and I hope he listens to the logic. Could save somebody from backing over a kid in their driveway much less the CG. The camera is "OK" but not the final answer, believe us Kickin and please don't rely on it too much! Cheers again...
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Still Kickin, Have you ever owned a passenger vehicle with rear bumper sensors? Probably not. I've had them on a couple of my cars and they are a nice safety feature. Yesterday, there was a Class A backing out of a parking lot space next to me and I could hear his rear sensors beep. Obviously, a walk around helps but with all the technology available these days, why not make it an option? Personally, I have known a couple of people who have run over their dogs backing up in their own driveways at night. And even more tragically, a toddler running out of the house to welcome a parent. All additional safety measures should have merit.
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Still Kickin, Have you ever owned a passenger vehicle with rear bumper sensors? Probably not. I've had them on a couple of my cars and they are a nice safety feature. Yesterday, there was a Class A backing out of a parking lot space next to me and I could hear his rear sensors beep. Obviously, a walk around helps but with all the technology available these days, why not make it an option? Personally, I have known a couple of people who have run over their dogs backing up in their own driveways at night. And even more tragically, a toddler running out of the house to welcome a parent. All additional safety measures should have merit.
My Avalanche has them PLUS the rear vision cam and they BOTH together have prevented many a bump for me on my pristine truck! Kickin' we are not ganging up on you make note...just trying to justify the ends to the means. All good points aforementioned but ours make the most sense () of course, lol!

Take care, drive SAFE(forward and backing!) and have fun...that's what it's all about.

PS: Go for it Mr Clemens...please...
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Ps- As I listened, next to me in my campground this morn., the driver and spotter don't always hear or communicate too well with each other....
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