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Old 09-01-2014, 10:49 PM   #1
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NCC question for Factory Representative

tire & loading label by 24S driver door says:

"the combined weight of occupants and Cargo should not exceed 1138 Lbs.

question: is the weight of the contents of the fresh & hot water tanks, propane tank, and grey & black tanks considered part of the "Cargo" allotment?

if they are all full, that adds up to more than 900 Lbs.

of course with grey & black tanks completely empty, it's only about 365 Lbs.; but still quite a chunk out of NCC

what about the fuel onboard?
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Old 09-01-2014, 11:18 PM   #2
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Usually, all the tanks count against you. Biggest reason most people don't carry much more than enough water in the fresh water tank to flush the toilet, then the little bit that's in the black tank. Keep the gray tanks empty. We were so close to gross weight on our fifth wheel, we actually dump the water heater, as that saves us just under 100 lbs.
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Just noticed that was your second post. Welcome to the forum. The factory rep for Forester / Sunseeker / Solera, is bclemens here on the forum. He'll be more than happy to answer any questions you might have. You can send him a PM if need be, or more than likely you'll see him on here answering questions.
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:06 AM   #4
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thanks Big John

the label in the Gulf Stream Vista Mini I just traded was clearer,
see: http://www.ipolyi.com/Mini/VM/info/CIMG2846.JPG

long ago I made an RV payload calculator and I am trying to add these Forest River class C's, now that I have the 24S

see: RV payload calculator
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That's pretty neat. Definitely not your first go at this.
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tire & loading label by 24S driver door says:

"the combined weight of occupants and Cargo should not exceed 1138 Lbs.

question: is the weight of the contents of the fresh & hot water tanks, propane tank, and grey & black tanks considered part of the "Cargo" allotment?

if they are all full, that adds up to more than 900 Lbs.

of course with grey & black tanks completely empty, it's only about 365 Lbs.; but still quite a chunk out of NCC

what about the fuel onboard?
That very question has been asked and answered by Bclemens before. Do a search in the Solera forum and you will find your answer. Welcome to the forum
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Old 09-02-2014, 04:50 PM   #7
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That gulfstream sticker is why the federal government switched the regulations. Everyone listed them differently.

Forester River would take the unit and subtract all seat belted positions (@ 154 per seat belt), full water & propane and then list CCC. Guys like Coachmen would list CCC in big bold print (with zero occupants) and then list water and propane and people down below. Most customers when looking at units would compare CCC and it all meant different things.

Soooo the government now mandates that we all list the same way, NCC. GVWR minus UVW. Both of those mean the same thing. UVW is still the unit weight with full fuel & engine fluids. GVWR is well...GVWR.
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