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Old 03-07-2015, 12:13 PM   #21
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By strange quirk of fate, I too just changed oil + filter at 6,202 miles on my 2014 Sprinter. Sourced the Mobil 1 Synthetic at WalMart at $26.63 per gallon; you'll need 3 gallons plus a quart. Oil filters at Eurocampers.com at $9.31 each; Copper Oil Drain Plug Washer at $0.33 each; Air Filter at $17.90 each. To save on shipping ($14.95) I ordered 4 each Oil Filters and 2 each Air Filters. Incidentally, I used up about 1 and 3/4 gallons of DEF on recent 3,059 mile trip - WalMart has DEF for $11.95 for 2.5 gallons.
My Walmart does not carry Mobil 1 ESP in any weight. Did not see it on their web site either. Maybe I missed it?
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Old 03-07-2015, 12:55 PM   #22
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Try this link:

turbo diesel truck oil - Walmart.com

If it doesn't work, use their search box with followiing:

Turbo Diesel Truck Motor Oil

I'm using the 5-40w
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Old 03-07-2015, 01:46 PM   #23
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Try this link:

turbo diesel truck oil - Walmart.com

If it doesn't work, use their search box with followiing:

Turbo Diesel Truck Motor Oil

I'm using the 5-40w
Mobil stopped making Mobil 1 5w40 ESP M and MB changed their specs.
This is the new list of recommended oils from MB.
MB 229.52 - Low SPAsh multigrade service engine oils (Specification 229.52) - Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids

The only reason I mention this is that the oil used could affect warranty issues. The new spec for MB is 229.52. I would think as long as the oil meets 229.51 or 229.52 it would not be a problem.

Here is a link to the complete oil discussion as related to 5W40 availability.
Mobil 1 ESP X1 5W-40

Thanks for the Walmart link.
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MB 229.52 - Low SPAsh multigrade service engine oils (Specification 229.52) - Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids

Here are the approved oils
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Wow, MB lists only those they have tested ... the Mobil 1 Synthetic Turbo Diesel Truck oil sourced at WalMart meets other diesel engine manufacturers Audi and VW for their engines using DEF technology. Cannot imagine how so many MB approved oils have such similar chemical attributes while those not listed do not.

I also wonder how MB's decimal spec 229.52 differs from those on the Mobil 1 sourced at WalMart:

"exceeds requirements of ACEA E7 Issue 2 - API CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CH-4 - Caterpillar ECF-2, ECF-3"

"Recommended by ExxonMobil for use in applications requiring: ACEA E5"

"Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 is suitable for use with most diesel-powered equipment of US, European and Japanese equipment builders, including both light-duty and heavy-duty applications.

I did find a source for imported German motor oil, MB approved, plus one filter for $172 - plus $70 shipping. The local MB dealer quoted $272 for an oil/filter change.

I appreciate all the info and discussion. My humble opinion is that if there is a nit, MB will find a way to pick it ... as an opportunity to reach into your pocket.
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Wow, MB lists only those they have tested ... the Mobil 1 Synthetic Turbo Diesel Truck oil sourced at WalMart meets other diesel engine manufacturers Audi and VW for their engines using DEF technology. Cannot imagine how so many MB approved oils have such similar chemical attributes while those not listed do not.

I also wonder how MB's decimal spec 229.52 differs from those on the Mobil 1 sourced at WalMart:

"exceeds requirements of ACEA E7 Issue 2 - API CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CH-4 - Caterpillar ECF-2, ECF-3"

"Recommended by ExxonMobil for use in applications requiring: ACEA E5"

"Mobil 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5W-40 is suitable for use with most diesel-powered equipment of US, European and Japanese equipment builders, including both light-duty and heavy-duty applications.

I did find a source for imported German motor oil, MB approved, plus one filter for $172 - plus $70 shipping. The local MB dealer quoted $272 for an oil/filter change.

I appreciate all the info and discussion. My humble opinion is that if there is a nit, MB will find a way to pick it ... as an opportunity to reach into your pocket.
$272.00, that is why I do my own oil changes. Heard somewhere that a MB dealer charged $400.00 for a change. NOT IN MY LIFE TIME!!!
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$272.00, that is why I do my own oil changes. Heard somewhere that a MB dealer charged $400.00 for a change. NOT IN MY LIFE TIME!!!
WOW, I thought the $175 the MB dealer here charged was bad. It is 65 miles away. I just bought 3 cases of Mobil 1 0w-30 ESP (6 quarts EA.) and oil filter @ Napa for $129. (today)
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Mobil stopped making Mobil 1 5w40 ESP M and MB changed their specs.
This is the new list of recommended oils from MB.
MB 229.52 - Low SPAsh multigrade service engine oils (Specification 229.52) - Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids

The only reason I mention this is that the oil used could affect warranty issues. The new spec for MB is 229.52. I would think as long as the oil meets 229.51 or 229.52 it would not be a problem.

Here is a link to the complete oil discussion as related to 5W40 availability.
Mobil 1 ESP X1 5W-40

Thanks for the Walmart link.
News to me that Walmart is stocking Mobil 1 "ESP" in any weight. Please go tohttp://www.forestriverforums.com/forums/f191/1st-oil-change-27371.html and read what Freightliner says about the 1st Oil Change.

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Old 03-07-2015, 08:02 PM   #29
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Mobil stopped making Mobil 1 5w40 ESP M and MB changed their specs.
This is the new list of recommended oils from MB.
MB 229.52 - Low SPAsh multigrade service engine oils (Specification 229.52) - Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids

The only reason I mention this is that the oil used could affect warranty issues. The new spec for MB is 229.52. I would think as long as the oil meets 229.51 or 229.52 it would not be a problem.

Here is a link to the complete oil discussion as related to 5W40 availability.
Mobil 1 ESP X1 5W-40

Thanks for the Walmart link.
Should have said spec MB 229.52/MB 229.51 to be accurate.
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Became a bit paranoid about the motor oil issue ... so did some research. The ACEA is an acronym for the European lublicant standards; API is the same of the US (American Petroleum Institute); and Mercedes has their own decimal standard.

Ardeca, a Belgian company, sells a motor oil labelled as meeting "Mercedes Benz 229.31, 229.51 and 229.52." The label also states "ACEA C2/C3" and "DEXOS 2."

Maybe its a stretch but I'm assuming oils labelled ACEA C2/C3 should be equivalent to the MB standard and are OK to use. Also it seems that the higher numbered ACEA oils meet or exceed standards for the lowered number product. Some of the standards have to do with ash content which may affect the particulate filter and ALSO oil change intervals.

Hopefully there's a petroleum engineer out there who can provide a definitive answer as to what labelled standard (other than 229.52) is both cost effective and safe.
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