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05-03-2015, 01:03 PM
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2015 Forester MBS 2401W
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Protect against fuel varnishing?
My binder of product information comes with a sheet by Cummins, stating that if it doesn't refuel the gas tank every month, it will have the varnishing problem. I assume this does not apply to the generator that uses LP? Can someone comment on it please? Thanks.
Jeff
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05-03-2015, 02:17 PM
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Senior Member
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LP when entering the carborator is a gas. There is no float bowl, because the fuel is delivered in a gaseous state, therefore, the varnishing effect you speak of is not an issue.
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05-05-2015, 01:35 PM
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2015 Forester MBS 2401W
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Location: San Diego
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Still Kickin
LP when entering the carborator is a gas. There is no float bowl, because the fuel is delivered in a gaseous state, therefore, the varnishing effect you speak of is not an issue.
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Thanks! What about the diesel engine? If I don't drive it enough to replenish a whole tank of diesel monthly, would varnishing be a potential issue?
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05-05-2015, 01:51 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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With diesel you have to worry about algae.
Power service has a product called bio kleen
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "4 nights"
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05-05-2015, 01:53 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "4 nights"
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05-05-2015, 06:26 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida/Thailand/Texas
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I was looking at PRI-D Diesel Treatment to keep the fungal growth in my Solera tank in check. Are their any other recommendations? I keep my Solera in storage about five months out of the year and I do not want or need any fungal problems with the fuel tank, filter or injectors, etc. Appreciate any comments-Thanks.
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05-05-2015, 06:35 PM
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No varnish in Diesel, that's a byproduct of evaporating gasoline. Diesel grows bugs, a offshoot of bacteria. Biobar is another popular maintainer of clean fuel. Been around Diesels long time, never heard of monthly treatment though?
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05-05-2015, 07:09 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Orange Park Fl.
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2014 Solera 24R
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05-05-2015, 10:10 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
With diesel you have to worry about algae.
Power service has a product called bio kleen
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "4 nights"
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There is no "living" organisms like algae taking up residency in your fuel tank. Maybe that word in the diesel fuel lexicon, means something else, but not a living organism for sure.
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05-06-2015, 06:32 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Still Kickin
There is no "living" organisms like algae taking up residency in your fuel tank. Maybe that word in the diesel fuel lexicon, means something else, but not a living organism for sure.
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Your right, I meant bacteria and fungus.
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded, 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "4 nights"
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05-06-2015, 06:41 AM
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Senior Member
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There's a fungus among us...
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2010 Cedar Creek 5th Wheel 34SATS "The Beast"
2006 Ford F350 Lariat 6.0L Diesel
2003 Harley Heritage Softail "Hogzilla"
1986 Marriage to "Wifey" (patience of a saint)
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05-06-2015, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member
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You might be a poet and don't know it!
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05-06-2015, 11:36 PM
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Junior Member
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Protect against fuel varnishing?
Microbial bacteria IS a living organism
http://www.mycleandiesel.com/pages/P...ialGrowth.aspx
And it does live in your fuel tank, just don't let it repopulate for too long without treatment.
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05-07-2015, 12:40 AM
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Left Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Still Kickin
You might be a poet and don't know it!
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But your feet show it......their longfellars!
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05-07-2015, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeOnWheels
Thanks! What about the diesel engine? If I don't drive it enough to replenish a whole tank of diesel monthly, would varnishing be a potential issue?
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I don't drive my F550 much only to ensure the brakes don't sit and seize. My tank holds 72 gallons so I don't fuel often. I started using Archoil and after just 5 miles there was a noticeable difference in the sound, power and the engine ran quieter. You only add 1 oz for 80 gallons. Oh yeah and no more black smoke.
I pasted the information below.
AR6200 Fuel Modification Complex
AR6200 is suitable for use in a broad range of hydrocarbon fuel types including diesel and gasoline.
AR6200 contains a proven organometallic catalyst that improves combustion efficiency to produce a cleaner and more complete fuel burn. This results in a reduction in unburned carbon residue (mainly soot) build-up within the Turbo, EGR, DPF and other post combustion parts. With this reduction in unburned carbons, the available BTU (energy or power) that can be accessed through the combustion process is increased. The engine should experience an improvement in torque and fuel efficiency (MPG). Repair costs should be lowered over time and equipment life extended due to a cleaner running fuel system and engine.
AR6200 also contains a high quality lubricant, dispersant, detergent, demulsifier and anti-corrosion package. The dispersant dissolves difficult to burn sludge within the fuel tank, which if left untreated may eventually plug filters and injectors. The detergent package cleans the entire fuel system while the lubricant and anti-corrosion agent ensures fuel system components, pumps and injectors remain sufficiently lubricated and protected. An active demulsifier protects delicate components by separating excess water from the fuel. AR6200 will preserve most hydrocarbon fuels for up to one year.
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2004 Ford F550 6l Lariat SuperCrew, Fontaine Bed,
Link Systems Air Ride
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05-07-2015, 10:02 AM
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Left Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by extremebike
I don't drive my F550 much only to ensure the brakes don't sit and seize. My tank holds 72 gallons so I don't fuel often. I started using Archoil and after just 5 miles there was a noticeable difference in the sound, power and the engine ran quieter. You only add 1 oz for 80 gallons. Oh yeah and no more black smoke.
I pasted the information below.
AR6200 Fuel Modification Complex
AR6200 is suitable for use in a broad range of hydrocarbon fuel types including diesel and gasoline.
AR6200 contains a proven organometallic catalyst that improves combustion efficiency to produce a cleaner and more complete fuel burn. This results in a reduction in unburned carbon residue (mainly soot) build-up within the Turbo, EGR, DPF and other post combustion parts. With this reduction in unburned carbons, the available BTU (energy or power) that can be accessed through the combustion process is increased. The engine should experience an improvement in torque and fuel efficiency (MPG). Repair costs should be lowered over time and equipment life extended due to a cleaner running fuel system and engine.
AR6200 also contains a high quality lubricant, dispersant, detergent, demulsifier and anti-corrosion package. The dispersant dissolves difficult to burn sludge within the fuel tank, which if left untreated may eventually plug filters and injectors. The detergent package cleans the entire fuel system while the lubricant and anti-corrosion agent ensures fuel system components, pumps and injectors remain sufficiently lubricated and protected. An active demulsifier protects delicate components by separating excess water from the fuel. AR6200 will preserve most hydrocarbon fuels for up to one year.
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Where is it sold?
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05-07-2015, 10:46 AM
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Senior Member
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Amazon has it
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2015 Solera MBS 24R - Hellwig/Sumo Equipped, Sold
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05-11-2015, 07:15 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob caldwell
Where is it sold?
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Archoil Products Spokane
23810 E. Strong Avenue
Newman Lake, WA 99025
Phone: 509-226-1292
sales@archoilspokane.com
Archoil Products Spokane - HOME
Ranaway Diesel
14701 Main Street #B1
Duvall, WA 98019
Phone: 425-844-6110
www.ranawaydiesel.com
Sound Diesel Performance
38 Western St.
Auburn, WA 98001
Phone: 206-229-7006
Website Disabled
Wilderness Auto Service
23701 Maple Valley Black Diamond Rd. SE
Maple Valley, WA 98038
Phone: 425-432-1636
You can also buy it online. at archoil.com
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Extremebike
2004 Ford F550 6l Lariat SuperCrew, Fontaine Bed,
Link Systems Air Ride
2011 Sterling 32RL with Michelin XPS tires
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05-11-2015, 03:19 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida/Thailand/Texas
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Will any of these diesel fuel additives affect our MB Warranty? Just asking!
CaptDan
2013 Solera S
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