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Old 06-03-2015, 02:20 PM   #1
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Solera won't start and starter motor turns slow

Good morning all, I have a problem that I don't think has been mentioned here before. My 2013 Solera won't start but the starter motor does turn very slowly. I had just pulled it forward out of our RV carport (normal start up and no check lights). I shut the engine off to get things ready to wash the beast, wanted to move a little closer to the water source...no go. The chassis battery went flat after our last trip in Feb. I have had the chassis battery on charger for the last 3 days and it's indicating that the battery is fully charged and is on the maintenance float charging cycle. I tried to use a jump starter pack which made zero difference in the sound of the starter. Anyone have a clue to what might be going on. Any help, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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Old 06-03-2015, 02:26 PM   #2
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Assuming that the battery is good, I would look at dirty battery terminals, loose/corroded battery to frame ground or loose/corroded hot lead at the starter solenoid or at the starter, in that order. Then, if not fixed I would look at the solenoid and lastly I would suspect the starter. I go by what my father always said, look at the cheapest fix first!
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Old 06-03-2015, 02:42 PM   #3
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Yup yank the battery and get it tested. You may have hurt a cell in the battery. If the connections are good consider yanking your coach battery and trying to start with it.
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Old 06-03-2015, 03:55 PM   #4
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limblips, Thank you for your quick reply (you too HappyGuy). I just put a miltimeter on the battery and I got 12.5-12.6 V (bounced back and forth between the two readings). I'm going to check the cranking voltage drop (I've been told that you might have a battery holding charge but if the cranking voltage drops 10V or below the battery is still bad). limblips I'll follow your advice assuming the battery is good. If everything checks out (everything tight and clean) I'll probably still pull the battery to get it checked out. Once again thanks for the input.
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Old 06-03-2015, 08:03 PM   #5
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Well everything checked out WNL, nothing loose or corroded. The cranking voltage never got below 10.5 V. The starter still sounded like it was turning over the engine very slowly. I tried to start up a couple of times , it finally started up when I let it crank for longer than previously. It subsequently started up normally the next 2 tries. Tomorrow morning will tell the tale is this was a travelling gremlin or not.
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:32 PM   #6
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You mentioned that the chassis battery went "flat" on a previous outing. By that I assume you mean dead. If thats the case, start there. I say that because you have traced and checked all the terminal connections from the battery posts, to the main power lead to the starter motor. If you can get it started, drive it to advanced auto, autozone, etc. and have them load test your battery.

But, before you take that drive, do a little battery shopping before you go to see who carries the replacement AGM battery, in case you need it.

I say this because, when you killed the battery, your battery was partly damaged, it's just part of battery 101. And, always look at the simplest thing first. Connections are good, check the battery. In case you go to advanced auto, here is a coupon link. You just need to have someone order online for you, if you find out it STB, while you wait at the store. $50 off Advance Auto Parts Coupon

Good luck.
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Sounds like the starter. Have someone hold the key in the start position while you tap/hit the starter with a suitable item. Not say'n hammer but they work.
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Old 06-04-2015, 09:51 PM   #8
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first thing.check your battery with proper load(at autozone)
if your battery is good
the problem will be your solenoid
when you crank the engine,you provive battery volts to the the solenoid in turn to close the contactors allow full battery current go (more than 300amps) to starter to crank the engine.after cranking so many time the contacters got burned create high resistance between the contacters which do not provide enough current to crank your engine
your starter could be the problem (shorting turns in the coil) but it is very rare
you could ask the auto/tech to remove it and check it,you can clean or replace 2 contacters inside solenoid or take to generator/alternator
if your solera Mercedes engine, dealer will charge you very close to one thousand dollars,I am not sure your solenoid and starter in one unit or seperate
if separate just remove solenoid and do service
I just try to help you....my English is not very good
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Connections are always a good suspect. Not only at the battery but also at chassis and block grounds. How much mung is on top of the battery? That will cause a slow discharge. Clean with baking soda, toothbrush and water, flush well , don't get the baking soda in the cells. Do you know how to use a voltmeter to test for voltage drops across a connection?
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Good morning all, I have a problem that I don't think has been mentioned here before. My 2013 Solera won't start but the starter motor does turn very slowly. I had just pulled it forward out of our RV carport (normal start up and no check lights). I shut the engine off to get things ready to wash the beast, wanted to move a little closer to the water source...no go. The chassis battery went flat after our last trip in Feb. I have had the chassis battery on charger for the last 3 days and it's indicating that the battery is fully charged and is on the maintenance float charging cycle. I tried to use a jump starter pack which made zero difference in the sound of the starter. Anyone have a clue to what might be going on. Any help, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Once you have had the battery checked and if it is good, should not the chassis warranty cover the starter issue?

BTW the battery should also be covered.
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