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Old 02-26-2016, 05:11 PM   #11
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Yes the Lippert contollers are in the water bay, AND they are mounted upside down, AND when you have a small drip from the fill spout (due to a wayward screw through the tube) it will almost certainly find its way into the box and fry your circuit board...ask me how I know. If you do nothing else, remount them so the opening where the wires attach is facing downward the way God intended. Mounting the way they did saved 3 inches of wire at the most! Good grief.
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Old 02-27-2016, 07:38 AM   #12
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Yes, that is exactly where the power comes in. I took off the panel in the front and removed the bottom of the closet for easier access. I installed the surge protector in this area before the ATS. I had to install an additional junction box to extend the length of the wiring and everything is working great.
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Old 03-01-2016, 07:43 AM   #13
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Yes, that is exactly where the power comes in. I took off the panel in the front and removed the bottom of the closet for easier access. I installed the surge protector in this area before the ATS. I had to install an additional junction box to extend the length of the wiring and everything is working great.
Where did you put the remote panel ? I think the best place would be near the outside door next to the 4-5 rocker switches under the sink - it looks like an ideal place (as long as little hands don't flip the switch)...
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Old 03-01-2016, 08:09 AM   #14
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Why before the ATS?

I'm getting ready to install a Progressive Industries surge protector on our Forester MBS. I understand the desire to protect the ATS, so that would indicate placing the protector between the external power input and the ATS. However, this does not protect the coach from generator power.

Placing the protector downstream of the ATS before the distribution panel protects the coach from external power and generator faults, but leaves the ATS vulnerable.

I assume the likelihood of generator faults is much less than that of external power faults.

So which is the better installation location - before or after the ATS?
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:15 AM   #15
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I talked to a couple electrician friends of mine, and their consensus was to put the Surge Protector after the ATS. Their argument was the generator could potentially send dirty/over/under power to the coach as well, and putting it in front of the ATS eliminates protection from the generator.

The other thing that occurred to me is if you are on generator and running A/C, and for whatever reason someone flips the microwave on, you just got a tremendous SAG in voltage that hits the entire coach. The PI will kill power to the coach instead of letting the entire coach experience the sag.

Has anyone wired their PI after the ATS, and how does it handle an instant draw, like the A/C ?
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Old 03-03-2016, 01:01 PM   #16
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Surge protector installation

I had originally planned to install my EMS downstream of the ATS as many have suggested.

However, I did talk to tech support at Progressive Industries about their recommended location. They recommend upstream of the ATS on the shore power line. Obviously this does not protect the generator feed to the ATS and to the coach.

The likelihood of bad generator power is very low on my MBS - the Cummins/Onan diesel genset is an inverter style and has a lot of built in protections. If bad shore power takes out the ATS, you are kind of dead in the water.

Given these concerns, I installed my EMS on the shore power line, upstream of the ATS.
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Old 03-03-2016, 01:40 PM   #17
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So installing after the ATS leaves the ATS at risk? What is the risks associated with that? I installed mine after the ATS and I have no generator. Should I consider a junction box and remove the surge protector to before the ATS? Or is another 6 to one half dozen to another argument?

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Old 03-03-2016, 01:52 PM   #18
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I installed mine after the ATS and I have no generator.
Hmm. If you don't have a generator, why do you have an automatic transfer switch?

Maybe I'm missing something here!

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Old 03-03-2016, 01:54 PM   #19
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I had originally planned to install my EMS downstream of the ATS as many have suggested.
Given these concerns, I installed my EMS on the shore power line, upstream of the ATS.
I did not know that the Diesel Genset is an Inverter. I have the propane model, and I do not believe it is an inverter, but I'll check. I also recall reading somewhere that the PI does not like inverters because they have a floating ground and that will cause the PI to shut down because of it.

All good information.
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Or I could be?? Oh I guess my newness is showing
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