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Old 12-19-2012, 09:15 AM   #31
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Hi PA Paco.
Just got back home from an awesome trip to Disneyworld.............
Thanks for the detailed info, a picture would be great. I was going to swap it out myself but with the welding needed I will take it to a trailer service center.

What size tires to you go with. Did you have any issues with clearance in the wheel well? The stock ones on mine are 205/75/R14.
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:49 PM   #32
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Thanks for the detailed info, a picture would be great. I was going to swap it out myself but with the welding needed I will take it to a trailer service center.

What size tires to you go with. Did you have any issues with clearance in the wheel well? The stock ones on mine are 205/75/R14.

Hi Paco.

I upgraded from 14 inch to 15 inch tires (that will give you a better load rating). I would suggest you go with a 6K axle with hubs that will accomodate 15 inch rims 6 x 5.5 bolt pattern. The end result is you end up with an axle/hubs/rims & tires with a much better load rating. The 205/75/R14 tires that I originally had only had a combined load rating of about 3600 lbs. (same dilemma as the axle - no margin for loading the trailer). I will try and take a photo of the replacement axle for you sometime on the weekend, (that will give you an idea of the custom bracket install that Saturn Trailers did for me)
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Old 12-20-2012, 08:08 AM   #33
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Hi Paco.

I upgraded from 14 inch to 15 inch tires (that will give you a better load rating). I would suggest you go with a 6K axle with hubs that will accomodate 15 inch rims 6 x 5.5 bolt pattern. The end result is you end up with an axle/hubs/rims & tires with a much better load rating. The 205/75/R14 tires that I originally had only had a combined load rating of about 3600 lbs. (same dilemma as the axle - no margin for loading the trailer). I will try and take a photo of the replacement axle for you sometime on the weekend, (that will give you an idea of the custom bracket install that Saturn Trailers did for me)
Thanks. No hurry on the pictures.
Is your tire upgrade the same size except for the 14" to 15". Are they 205/75/15?
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Old 12-29-2012, 01:54 PM   #34
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Thanks. No hurry on the pictures.
Is your tire upgrade the same size except for the 14" to 15". Are they 205/75/15?

I opted to go with ST225-75R15 (wider tire as well as diameter) for improved load rating. No problem at all fitting within the existing fenders.
Overall the trailer now sits a lot higher (I really like the added clearance for working under and better protection from debris damage).

Here are some photos of the bracket installed by Saturn Industriesin Winnipeg, Manitoba to accomodate the beefier axle.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:30 PM   #35
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We have a VCross Super Lite VFK27 which came with an Equal-I-Zer 4-point sway control system. When we arrived at the RV resort last week I found that one of the sway bars had become disconnected from the trailer and was just hanging from the hitch. On further inspection I found that the mounting bracket on the trailer had been pushed back about five inches, and the L-pin was bent.

The only thing I can think of is that the previous evening we stopped for the night, and I had to turn the Sequoia I was towing with very sharply to back the trailer into its spot.

Is there a limit on the angle between the tow vehicle and trailer when using this type of sway control device?
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Is there a limit on the angle between the tow vehicle and trailer when using this type of sway control device?
No sure of the angle, but maybe the brackets are installed too far back from the hitch ball.

The instructions call for the brackets to be mounted between 27"-32" from the center of the hitch.
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I get 31.5" from the front of the bracket to the center of the ball, so they are on the far end of the range. I'll just have to watch the sharp turn parking maneuvers, I guess.
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Old 06-01-2013, 01:09 PM   #38
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Angry Excessive sway - weight distribution problem

We bought a 2013 Vibe 6502. We absolutely love the trailer, however ...

The trailer came with the E2 WDH factory mounts (2 studs on each side of the tongue). The dealer installed an E2 WDH. We took it home and loaded the large cargo storage with 350# of camping gear... no fresh, grey or black water. About 50# more in the cabinets. (far less than the 646# stated in the brochure)

On the road, I took a small swerve to avoid a retread at 50 MPH. The trailer went into a death sway. It took my tow vehicle into the oncoming lane (luckily no traffic)

I researched and found the cause to be not enough tongue weight. Recommended 10-15% Problem is the Vibe 6502 starts about 10% (3164# empty and 310# Tongue weight empty) The large cargo compartment and the fresh water tank is behind the axle. Anything you put in the CC or fresh tank removes tongue weight. I had 100# (3% Tongue weight) ... I bought a Sherline tongue weight scale.

The steel on steel friction sway control on the E2 hitch is ineffective without adequate tongue weight. (Actually, the E2 Manual recommends a minimum of 400# TW)

Do the math ... I'm at a loss as to what the FR engineers were thinking ... am I missing something ?

I've had it a month and haven't used it as I feel it is not safe to tow. The dealer won't take it back even though it's never been used.

I'm changing to a Reese 600/6000 Equal-i-zer hitch with 4 point sway control. Also, I'm considering the Dexter 6000# axle upgrade as explained by pdchristensen in this thread so I can add some lead weight to the front and put more than pillows in the generous cargo storage compartment.
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Most W/D sway control systems need (Preload) to function.If your case is not conductive to this,try 1 or 2 (Friction bar type),they preload by turning a lever.Youroo!!
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We bought a 2013 Vibe 6502. We absolutely love the trailer, however ...

I'm changing to a Reese 600/6000 Equal-i-zer hitch with 4 point sway control. Also, I'm considering the Dexter 6000# axle upgrade as explained by pdchristensen in this thread so I can add some lead weight to the front and put more than pillows in the generous cargo storage compartment.
Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
You answered the reason you experieced the sway. If you only had 100lbs on the tongue, that was your issue. I'm just glad nothing bad happened to you and your family, lesson learned.

What is your tow vehicle?

We have a 6501 & tow with an FJ Cruiser. We have an Equilizer hitch and have not had any sway problems. The hitch we have is very similar to yours. Before you upgrage to another hitch, try to get that tongue weight right and see how she handles.

We also plan on upgrading to a 6,000 lb axle.
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