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Old 05-01-2015, 10:51 PM   #41
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North Carolina. The reason the sticker is on the door is to protect the mfg and it is not a legal document, it is a warning, like the warning tags on mattresses, sleeping pills, etc.
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Old 05-01-2015, 10:52 PM   #42
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The sticker on the door is a government regulation. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...pGtQeCqxIiUuDw
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I don't want to argue, just trying to help. Just give dot a call or your insurance agent and ask them. Better to be safe than sorry. By the way, I have hauled rv's for a living for the past 9 years and have been ticketed for being 278 lbs over my gvwr. Anyway, good evening, time for this puppy to hit the sack.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:05 PM   #44
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The sticker on the door is a government regulation. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...pGtQeCqxIiUuDw
It might be a govt regulation for the mfgr, but that's all it is. So it the one in your car and when you vacation in a car, you are no doubt overloaded or if you put 5 large adults in it.
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Old 05-01-2015, 11:38 PM   #45
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I don't want to argue, just trying to help. Just give dot a call or your insurance agent and ask them. Better to be safe than sorry. By the way, I have hauled rv's for a living for the past 9 years and have been ticketed for being 278 lbs over my gvwr. Anyway, good evening, time for this puppy to hit the sack.
Hauling RV's for a living is much different, from the laws perspective, than me pulling my camper on vacation. Not sure why, but that's the way it is. Like OC said, if those stickers are law, then every minivan that's had more than a couple passengers is over. Agree with you that folks should be aware of those weights, and it is probably best to stay within, but not the law (at least in my interpretation)
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Hauling RV's for a living is much different, from the laws perspective, than me pulling my camper on vacation. Not sure why, but that's the way it is. Like OC said, if those stickers are law, then every minivan that's had more than a couple passengers is over. Agree with you that folks should be aware of those weights, and it is probably best to stay within, but not the law (at least in my interpretation)
This has been bugging me. I called the dealer that I haul to and asked their views from a retail standpoint. They say that if the tv's GCWR is exceeded the customer must sign a form releasing them from any liability.
The gcwr, of a Silverado 2500 HD is around 22,000. The gvwr is around 9200. This leaves a remaining gvwr for the trailer around 13000. I guess the point I was trying to make is that too many people are concerned about how much their truck can pull power wise opposed to how much it can pull safely. As far as legality goes, I'll stick to my guns, but you can test those waters and let me know how it turns out. I believe that any 3/4 is too small to pull much over 11k.
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This has been bugging me. I called the dealer that I haul to and asked their views from a retail standpoint. They say that if the tv's GCWR is exceeded the customer must sign a form releasing them from any liability.
The gcwr, of a Silverado 2500 HD is around 22,000. The gvwr is around 9200. This leaves a remaining gvwr for the trailer around 13000. I guess the point I was trying to make is that too many people are concerned about how much their truck can pull power wise opposed to how much it can pull safely. As far as legality goes, I'll stick to my guns, but you can test those waters and let me know how it turns out. I believe that any 3/4 is too small to pull much over 11k.
Tell me what is the difference between for the years 2006 thru 2012 for a 3500HD SRW Dodge/Ram and the 2500HD Dodge Ram truck? I know the difference and you would be shocked if you believe that any 3/4 ton truck is to light of a truck to pull a heavy 5er.

For the state of IL it is the licenses plate tag and the weight class of the tag plus wheels and tires that matters to the DOT. I asked the DMV because I am getting a new 5er and wanted to be clear on the towing requirements for IL. Sent them and e-mail and a secretary of state; police officer called back and we discuss the requirements.
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I don't want to argue, just trying to help. Just give dot a call or your insurance agent and ask them. Better to be safe than sorry. By the way, I have hauled rv's for a living for the past 9 years and have been ticketed for being 278 lbs over my gvwr. Anyway, good evening, time for this puppy to hit the sack.
Might I ask what type of scale was used in order to come up with that over weight number?
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The difference is a leaf spring. I have 2, 3500 rams. Anyway, I give up. Your right, you can pull anything with a 3/4 ton.
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Might I ask what type of scale was used in order to come up with that over weight number?
Scale was west bound Indiana, I94., mile marker 28. Sorry, I don't know what kind of scale they use.
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