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Old 04-02-2012, 01:42 PM   #41
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Ford raised the side of there truck bed a few years
ago and then said it had more payload capacity.
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Old 04-02-2012, 01:52 PM   #42
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Ford raised the side of there truck bed a few years ago and then said it had more payload capacity.
This was my point in an earlier post. Are the lying about their stats?
No. Are they "spinning" them for marketing? You bet.

More carrying capacity? Sure.
It will definately carry more feathers than the others.
Did they lie? No. They were just talking about volume not weight.
Not just Ford. They all do it to some extent.
Heck they learned from the best.

Don't like how the measurements turn out?
Change HOW you measure.

Example: We have over twice the width of the competition.
They have 18 and we have 45!

Comparing 18 to 45 makes 45 sounds better.
But 18 Inches and 45 Centimeters are the same width.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:09 PM   #43
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I totally get your point herk
we have 2 of the same year trucks at our shop 1 is a 3/4 ton
The other a 1 ton single rear wheel.
Now mind you the 1 ton has a heavier duty front axle. And that's it.
The one ton has a heavier payload and more towing capacity .
Same rear axle same leaf springs. Same box same engine same trans.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:16 AM   #44
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There may be some light 5ers that you can pull, Casita, Scamp etc., but there are some of us who pull 5ers and have for a good number of years and I would not tow anything approching 9,000 lbs GVWR with a F150 with a 5.5 bed. Not even a new 150 would be good for that job.
My 5er has a GVWR of 9,950 lbs and I tow with a F250, crew cab, long bed, diesel, 2 wheel drive and I would not want anything less. I have read here that you will hardly know that it is back there, not so, and how could someone even say that, unless they have never done it?
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:48 PM   #45
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I would not tow anything approching 9,000 lbs GVWR with a F150 with a 5.5 bed. Not even a new 150 would be good for that job.
My 5er has a GVWR of 9,950 lbs and I tow with a F250, crew cab, long bed, diesel, 2 wheel drive and I would not want anything less.
Well times have changed. The F150 ordered with the max payload (8200 lb GVWR) has as much payload as my F250 V10 CC RWD (and your F250 diesel) and can tow 11300 lbs. If I was towing a 5th wheel under 10000 lb I wouldn't hesitate buying a F150 ecoboost with max tow and max payload. The advantage would be the good non-towing fuel mileage, which for me, is at least 75% of the annual mileage on the truck.

If it wasn't for the dollars, I'd be trading my F250 for one.

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Old 04-06-2012, 12:39 PM   #46
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My 2011 F250 has a GVWR of 10,000 lbs, 5th wheel 16,200 lbs and GCWR of 23,500 lbs. I would not pull a 5er much over 11,000 lbs loaded with my truck. Times have not changed much the truck makers still try to out do each other, mine can pull more then yours, often without making real improvements. I get 18.5 MPG without trailer and 10.5 to about 12.9 MPG with. There are lots of folks on the forum who bash me for my view on weights that can be safely pulled and stoped on the road. I have a good number of years pulling trailers and I am not at all comfortable towing the loads that many on this forun do every day.
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My 2011 F250 has a GVWR of 10,000 lbs, 5th wheel 16,200 lbs and GCWR of 23,500 lbs. I would not pull a 5er much over 11,000 lbs loaded with my truck. Times have not changed much the truck makers still try to out do each other, mine can pull more then yours, often without making real improvements. I get 18.5 MPG without trailer and 10.5 to about 12.9 MPG with. There are lots of folks on the forum who bash me for my view on weights that can be safely pulled and stoped on the road. I have a good number of years pulling trailers and I am not at all comfortable towing the loads that many on this forun do every day.
I am in your camp on this, as is well known here.
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My 2011 F250 has a GVWR of 10,000 lbs, 5th wheel 16,200 lbs and GCWR of 23,500 lbs. I would not pull a 5er much over 11,000 lbs loaded with my truck.
That's because you'll max out on the payload (by GVWR) with a camper weight around 11000 lbs. The ratings of max tow and GCWR become irrelevent because you wouldn't be able to carry the accompanying pin weight. Whether it half, three quarter or one ton, the payload will be the limiting factor on the towed weight.

All I'm saying, is that the F150HD really blurs the line between half and three quater ton trucks.

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