Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-30-2013, 02:10 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Cover Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Chardon, Ohio
Posts: 370
Send a message via ICQ to Cover Dog
AAA warns...don't use E15 gas

AAA warns of damage to car engines older then 2012. Using it will VOID your warranty.

__________________

__________________
Cover Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 02:32 PM   #2
Phat Phrog Stunt Crew
 
mackman1994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Carroll Iowa
Posts: 786
I always knew that ethanol was for drinking and not for burning in your car!

I am from one of the largest ethanol producing states (Iowa) and I refuse to use the stuff do to what they are saying about it eating lines and gaskets!
__________________

__________________
F-350 Lariat 6.7 Powerstroke
2014 Heritage Glen 356QBQ

mackman1994 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 03:19 PM   #3
Phat Phrog Stunt Team
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: South West PA
Posts: 2,947
My small engine mechanic has a five gallon bucket full of carburetors ruined by that stuff. I treat every gallon of gas I use. So far so good.
__________________
grayfox is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 03:20 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
golfmedik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Auburn, GA
Posts: 966
Quote:
Originally Posted by grayfox View Post
My small engine mechanic has a five gallon bucket full of carburetors ruined by that stuff. I treat every gallon of gas I use. So far so good.
Same around here!
__________________
2012 Sandpiper 365SAQ weighing @ 15k, Onan, 2nd air, slide toppers, TST
2013 F350 6.7L Lariat 4x4 CC DRW,Viair 1007, Ride-Rites, Edge CTS, B&W
2001 Chevy 3500CC DRW 4x4, 8.1L, 4.10 gears w/ Detroit TrueTrac
2001 Ford Excursion Limited 4x4 7.3L,V/B Spring Mod, ProComps, Hellwig Swaybar, & other 'Necessities'
golfmedik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 04:23 PM   #5
Cyber Phrenologist
 
Radio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fayetteville, GA
Posts: 1,699
They are right, unless your engine was built for E15, that is a so called "Flex-fuel" engine, then avoid E15. The only difference is the material of lines and seals and some software changes to the driveline computer.
__________________
KU4OJ
Admin at www.openroadsradio.net, part of the Social Knowledge network.
"RVing and Amateur Radio served up on the same plate"
2008 (or is it 2009?) Rockwood 8280SS - 2007 F-150
Lot's of mostly Kenwood radios

Radio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 07:36 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Dodge Guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 753
My X became a dog with the E10. my mileage dropped down to 5mpg and I had no power to hold 55mph! this was about 4 years ago. on the same trip I filled up in WI with thier good gas (no ethanol at the time) and within 10 miles power and mileage came back! I started running 93 oct which helped somewhat around here in IL. so now with my tuner and running 89 oct. I am at 7 mpg which is still .5 mpg lower than what I was getting 4 years ago.
__________________
02 Ford Excursion V-10 4.30 gears 5 Star Tuner Y-pipe mod Hellwig sway bar Rear Airbags
Prodigy and Dual Cam
07 Cherokee 32B
Better to have a bad day of camping than a good day at work!
Dodge Guy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 10:42 PM   #7
Anacortesians
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Anacortes, WA
Posts: 1,167
I see stickers for "E85" fuel on various vehicles. Does this idetify their compatibilty with gas that has 15% ethanol (i.e 100-15) or are they really good for fuel with up to 85% ethanol?
__________________
Frank and Eileen
No longer RVers or FR owners
F and E Damp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2013, 11:16 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
HONDAMAN174's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Big brown desert
Posts: 2,318
Now, some facts to remember, is that e-85 burns hotter than normal gasoline and it requires 20% more product to get the same amount of power. So although it may be a little cheaper per gallon, you are burning more fuel negating the $$$ savings.
__________________
2014 Stealth Evo 2850- "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7- "Clifford"
2013 Honda Accord Coupe V6 w/Track Pack- "Julia"

Just glad to get away
HONDAMAN174 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2013, 09:10 AM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 70
Quote:
Originally Posted by HONDAMAN174 View Post
Now, some facts to remember, is that e-85 burns hotter than normal gasoline and it requires 20% more product to get the same amount of power. So although it may be a little cheaper per gallon, you are burning more fuel negating the $$$ savings.
Depends on the price. When E85 is 20% less than the standard E10, it is a wash. And if your vehicle is made to run on it why not use it and support an american jobs rather than foreign oil?

Please don't start the debate about ethanol reducing the supply or raising the price of feed or food: Ethanol subsidies have expired, corn prices are the lowest they have been in 3 years, and they are still able to produce ethanol for a profit (there is demand).

And please don't start the debate about it taking more energy to produce than you receive. It simply isn't true. Modern farming practices have increased yields with less energy inputs every year. Fertilizer use has declined ~50% per bushel in the past 30-years. Ethanol plant efficiencies have also increased - most producing 120%+ of their design capacities. And ethanol plants also produce valuable co-products for feed and alternate energy sources.

I have a 2007 Jeep and a 2011 GMC that are both Flex Fuel and can run on anything up to E85 and I haven't had any issues using it. I use it when the price difference is at least 15% (which has been about 50% of the time, in Iowa).

I believe that 20% is a maximum drop in fuel efficiency when using E85. I've found it to be ~15% less in both of my vehicles. The drop is less when towing compared to towing with standard E10.

It is also a proven fact that ethanol burns cleaner than gas. Even when you factor in the loss of efficiency, ethanol reduces greenhouse gas emissions by over 30% compared to gasoline. Ethanol is non-toxic, water soluble and quickly biodegradable. Say that for oil.

All that said, I wouldn't use it in any engine that it wasn't made for. Especially engines that are not regularly used - like lawn and garden equipment because it can gum up carburetors when it sits for longer periods of time. If used regularly E10 and maybe even E15 are fine.
__________________
brianjames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-31-2013, 03:11 PM   #10
Phat Phrog Stunt Team
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: South West PA
Posts: 2,947
It takes about 30 times more water to produce Ethanol as well, and more energy to manufacture the stuff than you save. Doesen't work for me.
__________________

__________________
grayfox is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
gas

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:08 PM.