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Old 11-22-2014, 10:01 AM   #1
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I really like our trailer but from what I've seen when looking all brands have problems in one way or another and use the same frames. The biggest thing I dislike about mine is the wheelbase it's a long trailer and the spread between the wheels is narrow, I would like to see a bigger gap between wheels on a long trailer. This would make it tow easier and stabilize better when parked. I hope the trailer makers look at all the post on this thread and other and use the thoughts constructively. Engineers need to listen to the user to make a better product but in most cases won't.
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Old 11-22-2014, 10:10 AM   #2
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I really like our trailer but from what I've seen when looking all brands have problems in one way or another and use the same frames. The biggest thing I dislike about mine is the wheelbase it's a long trailer and the spread between the wheels is narrow, I would like to see a bigger gap between wheels on a long trailer. This would make it tow easier and stabilize better when parked. I hope the trailer makers look at all the post on this thread and other and use the thoughts constructively. Engineers need to listen to the user to make a better product but in most cases won't.
Having been an engineer my entire career, I can tell you that engineers only design what they are instructed to by folks higher up the food chain. Sales and accounting have more influence on design and decisions made are they certainly are not made using common sense. Common sense is really not very common in those meetings. The ones I sat in on had the engineers just sitting there shaking their heads when the decisions were made.
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Mark which trailer do you own? We have the 8329ss which is 34'9" or let's call it 35'. From what I've read that length is in the upper reaches of length for RV trailers.
We got it delivered in January of 14 and have probably put 6000 miles on it or more. We tow it with a Tundra and have had no problems towing including in heavy cross winds.
It is 8' wide and the wheels are spread about as far as is possible and still legal.
With the stabilizer jacks down it is pretty solid so I'm interested in what you are experiencing.
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:14 AM   #4
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I think he is refering to axle SPREAD as opposed to axle WIDTH.spread is dictated by the length of the springs and rockers unless you go to a tortion set up.
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Having been an engineer my entire career, I can tell you that engineers only design what they are instructed to by folks higher up the food chain. Sales and accounting have more influence on design and decisions made are they certainly are not made using common sense. Common sense is really not very common in those meetings. The ones I sat in on had the engineers just sitting there shaking their heads when the decisions were made.
I can vouch for this from the software development world. Our management made agreements with our customers for software "enhancements" that couldn't be done... and promised the customers when they could have it. If you have access to the cartoon strip Dilbert by Scott Adams, you'll see over time a fair rendition of how sales and accounting "information" and pipe dreams morph into specifications.
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I really like our trailer but from what I've seen when looking all brands have problems in one way or another and use the same frames. The biggest thing I dislike about mine is the wheelbase it's a long trailer and the spread between the wheels is narrow, I would like to see a bigger gap between wheels on a long trailer. This would make it tow easier and stabilize better when parked. I hope the trailer makers look at all the post on this thread and other and use the thoughts constructively. Engineers need to listen to the user to make a better product but in most cases won't.
If you spread out the axles to far you will get to much scuff on the tires and could pull the tire off the rim in tight turns especially on three or four axle trailers. That is why they don't do it
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Old 11-23-2014, 05:55 AM   #7
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First in regards to the engineers its the news that try to push tolerances through that just don't work. Like when you have to pry on something to try and make it fit like what they put on paper. 2d was not talking about the width of the trailer was talking about the space between axels. I believe the tires on my v lite are about 3 inches apart and could be wider . I've never seen a semi trailer with them this close. Was really jut trying to give some input as to some tweaks that I feel could be good adjustments. I mean tell me you've never looked a something and said who was the fool that designed that
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I think you have to keep in the back of your mind that most folks that seek out owner forums do so because they need more specific information that wasn't readily available to them, or because they are experiencing problem. For that reason alone.. hitting over 85% in a satisfaction poll is quite an achievement in my book

I think there is a large disparity in quality control between the different factories as well. It might just be my perception, but I rarely see folks with rigs out of the West coast factory listing their FR woes.
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First in regards to the engineers its the news that try to push tolerances through that just don't work.

Autocorrect issue maybe? I don't follow.

I DO understand your comment about tires being close together. Mine are closer together than on any other trailer I've owned.


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If you spread out the axles to far you will get to much scuff on the tires and could pull the tire off the rim in tight turns especially on three or four axle trailers. That is why they don't do it


I had a E Z Ride on my Lacrosse which spaced the axles out to 17" between the tires vs 2". It did ride nice and take the bumps smoother. The downside was the tires would twist and fight each other (scuff?) when I was backing into a tight turn on cement. When looking for my new RV I didn't see wide tracks out there.
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