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Old 03-17-2015, 07:41 PM   #41
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Yea they just scare everyone into believing all tires made in China blow out............................. the truth is they don't ............ some do but so does every brand & I still am going to believe a lot are do to road hazards. Like a couple years ago a construction truck lost a case of nails.......30 flats later....


As far as the Nitrogen we had a car (2011 piece of junk) That had nitrofill in the tires We saw no benefit in the 120K miles before the car blew up. The tires wore out just the same as ones with regular air & the fuel mileage was the same (our pockets were just a little lighter paying for the nitrogen) never again. Th e DW & I each drive at least 100 miles a day to & from work.....



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Old 03-17-2015, 07:46 PM   #42
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2X of OC. N2 is used on aircraft tires as it does not expand near as much due to temp or altitude. If you pump up an aircraft tire to max with regular air, take it to 30,000-40,000 ft, you have a belly full of bombs as they would most likely explode from expansion passing 30,000 ft. Certainly, it would cause damage to the tires structure. This was one of the questions on the commercial pilots test I took in 1968.
As far as N2 in land tires, I can't see any advantage. The only time I add air is once a year with the ambient temp change and that is rarely more than 2-3 lbs.
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Old 03-17-2015, 07:59 PM   #43
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Would that happen to be a Chevy Trax? Are the made in China?
Yep that is what I have been told by the GM at Moore Chevrolet. We bought a Buick instead. We bought a used 15000 miles Captivity yesterday and took it back today and drove off with a Regal Buick, had 72 hrs. or 150 miles to try it. He said 6mos before he would have a trek. My wife thought of it ( captivity as a rental car). It's a fleet car they don't even have brochures on it. The Regal is great fully loaded same warranty. Told him I do not want a chevy made in China
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:11 PM   #44
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I have had a ton of experience dealing with these tires made from China. I drive mobile/modular homes up the east coast with the lippert frames and so forth.....the key to not having so many flats is to lower your speed and check air pressure randomly when on your trip!!! The tires heat up and expand very quickly (specially in the summer) and can cause headaches.
I fully agree with h4k esp. when pulling those huge loads over hill-and-dale.
Slow down and also check often. Get a tire whacker if need be and get used
to listening to the timber of the "thud" to quickly tell if any of your tires are
getting close to an explosion. Esp. on the front tires! Or, always keep an eye on your tpms and make sure they are accurate!! Digi gauges are usually fairly sensitive and accurate too and a good investment! In any case...do something all the time, esp when it's 85 degrees or warmer on that macadam.

Just got off a blog re my Michelin tires (which I used to run at 120 mph when I was young and very foolish back in the day...stationed in Germany in the early 70's and just "had" to try out our BMW's on the Autobahn where it was
allowed. Anyway those tires were like glue and the only thing faster on those roads were the big, WHITE, Mercedes...but ALL WERE ON the French-made[pre-China] Mich's). At least Michelin has printed on the sidewall where they are made (57 different plants scattered around the world now, and climbing...and yes they just opened up a huge one in Sangyang(sp?). Anyway, after learning that I immediately trotted down to my garage to check my Sam's Club bought Michelin Primacy's which are on the Outback and started searching while holding my breath! MADE IN...ROMANIA...so I lucked out. Wait...WHAT!? Doesn't that country border Ukraine, Moldova, Budapest, Bulgaria, Serbia, etc? Oh well...guess that's much better than China! So,
at least if you are into Mich's for your MH you'll KNOW where they have been
made. If you are nervous re the China production Mich's...then refuse them!
Check that air pressure all the time and equalize those tires...makes sense.
If not, slow down a bit as most of you are not professional driver's and are not capable of reacting correctly in those lumbering beasts if you blow a front tire. Hey, while I'm at it...keep your darned distance too, LOL! Be safe, have fun, enjoy those grandkids and embrace the slow life...

PS: you all KNOW the cancer warnings on all Chinese-made items, of course, re the toxicity on anything made with their petroleum products.
The manu's always cover themselves in the instruction sheets, every other
page by literally begging you to wash your hands after touching their products(esp. power cords!) so what does that tell you about
what they make over there compared to the good ol' USofA? You could just imagine the mortality rate of their plant workers insofar as cancer rates from touching\breathing the same? AND...they are a major world polluter in most of their industrial cities at this point...so anything coming from their tells me that they just don't give a damn about us, or their citizens! Hmmmmm...
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2X of OC. N2 is used on aircraft tires as it does not expand near as much due to temp or altitude. If you pump up an aircraft tire to max with regular air, take it to 30,000-40,000 ft, you have a belly full of bombs as they would most likely explode from expansion passing 30,000 ft. Certainly, it would cause damage to the tires structure. This was one of the questions on the commercial pilots test I took in 1968.
As far as N2 in land tires, I can't see any advantage. The only time I add air is once a year with the ambient temp change and that is rarely more than 2-3 lbs.
Nailed it. N2 is a marginal benefit in automotive tires, not worth the price you'll be paying to have them filled. Just carry a tire pressure gauge and check frequently.

As someone else pointed out, the air we breathe consists of 78 percent nitrogen. To be considered pure, nitrogen in your tires must be 93% nitrogen. So you're talking about an 8 percent difference in relative volume. The benefits are also negligible for most users, especially if you are diligent about maintenance.

This article from Tire Rack is informative. Best uses are for vehicles that are seldom driven (may apply to some of your RVs!) and folks who don't like to take care of their vehicles.
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Post #4 doesn't say much for TPMS. Is it really worth the money?
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Old 03-21-2015, 10:02 AM   #47
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From what I have seen in our Columbus group, If you have Akuret or Westlake tires get rid of them. There are both good stories and bad, mostly bad.
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Post #4 doesn't say much for TPMS. Is it really worth the money?
Absolutely! They are not that expensive.

If nothing else, it is worth the peace of mind. I used to tow; constantly checking the mirrors to try to see if my trailer tires were OK. Odds are that you would never see a problem in time to do anything about it.

With TPMS, I know the pressure and temperature of each tire in real time mode. There are alarms for heat; low pressure, high pressure.

Now I tow a lot more relaxed. If a problem is brewing, I will have some warning.
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Absolutely! They are not that expensive.
If nothing else, it is worth the peace of mind. I used to tow; constantly checking the mirrors to try to see if my trailer tires were OK. Odds are that you would never see a problem in time to do anything about it.
With TPMS, I know the pressure and temperature of each tire in real time mode. There are alarms for heat; low pressure, high pressure.
Now I tow a lot more relaxed. If a problem is brewing, I will have some warning.
Agree, but if you do happen to hit something and have a blowout, the TPMS alarm will be "after the fact".
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I am ignorant. What are TPMS?
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