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Old 03-17-2015, 09:17 AM   #21
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I have had a ton of experience dealing with these tires made from China. I drive mobile/modular homes up the east coast with the lippert frames and so forth.....the key to not having so many flats is to lower your speed and check air pressure randomly when on your trip!!! The tires heat up and expand very quickly (specially in the summer) and can cause headaches.
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:44 AM   #22
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I will be on my 6th season with my tires, they look great, always covered, always have the tire pressure checked etc etc. But with all the comments on this thread it has me wondering!! I was planning a trip to Edmonton this summer but it got cancelled so all are travelling will be within a couple of hours. If I was still going west I would probably change them but now the million dollar question is trying to ride another summer out of them and not be that guy stuck on the side of a highway.

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Old 03-17-2015, 10:54 AM   #23
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I have had a ton of experience dealing with these tires made from China. I drive mobile/modular homes up the east coast with the lippert frames and so forth.....the key to not having so many flats is to lower your speed and check air pressure randomly when on your trip!!! The tires heat up and expand very quickly (specially in the summer) and can cause headaches.

Which is why the mfgs put Nitrogen in the 'borderline' weight tires.
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:58 AM   #24
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Which is why the mfgs put Nitrogen in the 'borderline' weight tires.
Don't really think that has anything to do with having or not having blowouts. It's just a propaganda selling point. Totally useless with air being 78% N.
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Old 03-17-2015, 11:24 AM   #25
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I will be on my 6th season with my tires, they look great, always covered, always have the tire pressure checked etc etc. But with all the comments on this thread it has me wondering!! I was planning a trip to Edmonton this summer but it got cancelled so all are travelling will be within a couple of hours. If I was still going west I would probably change them but now the million dollar question is trying to ride another summer out of them and not be that guy stuck on the side of a highway.

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Old 03-17-2015, 11:39 AM   #26
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X2 on getting rid of the China Bombs!


B&B and I both have gone to Goodyear Marathons and went up a load class to boot (C->D) a Bonus to upping the load class is you go from 6 to 8 ply


I believe that Goodyear Marathon's are manufactured at the Gadsden, AL Goodyear plant.


(Our 5er is at the dealer's ATM and I cannot go check the tires to see if this info is correct.)
That was the old plant, they are made in China now for the last 2 years. But it doesn't mean that they are bad. Also GY will stand behind them. I have the same tire and I'm happy with them. They are to GY specs. Not all are bad out of China or overseas. I just bought a new Chevy car. My wife wanted what is called the Trek or something. GM told me that the whole car is made in China. Now GM is sending the whole auto ind. for that car to China to be made. They also told me it takes 6mos to get one.
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That was the old plant, they are made in China now for the last 2 years. But it doesn't mean that they are bad. Also GY will stand behind them. I have the same tire and I'm happy with them. They are to GY specs. Not all are bad out of China or overseas. I just bought a new Chevy car. My wife wanted what is called the Trek or something. GM told me that the whole car is made in China. Now GM is sending the whole auto ind. for that car to China to be made. They also told me it takes 6mos to get one.
Would that happen to be a Chevy Trax? Are the made in China?
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:04 PM   #28
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Just talked to my Michelin rep and he claims that tho they are NOT all made in China that they are made "elsewhere" where ever that is. The Solera specialist is going to call me back within 48 hrs. and I will happily pass on any pertinent info to you all after I talk to him and press him with "those" questions. This guy did say that the tires are STILL made to the "strict" US standards and must pass inspection before being allowed to enter the US...you can take that anyway you wish, I guess? Will let you know what the MH guy sez. News at 11...PB

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Old 03-17-2015, 01:30 PM   #29
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Don't really think that has anything to do with having or not having blowouts. It's just a propaganda selling point. Totally useless with air being 78% N.
OC, nitrogen is science, not propaganda, N2 molecules are larger that just air so tires with N2 in them leak less. Mine leaked only about 1 # in a year, I figured that was from using the gauge.. Also N2 will cause a tire to last longer because there is no moisture in the tire.
But I really think the RV mfgs use N2 in some of there tirs is because they are run so close to their weight limit and the pressure remains constant as the tires heat up.
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Old 03-17-2015, 01:38 PM   #30
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Yep, the Marathon's I bought last Sept from DTD were made in China.
That said the LR D Marathons I installed were obviously made heavier than the LR C Trail Express tires I removed.
On that I agree X2! It was amazing to see the difference. Even if they are made in china, the quality difference between the GY & TE tires was evident.

Taking them out on the road for the first campout of the season this Friday. According to Brian I shouldn't be disappointed
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Old 03-17-2015, 02:01 PM   #31
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OC, nitrogen is science, not propaganda, N2 molecules are larger that just air so tires with N2 in them leak less. Mine leaked only about 1 # in a year, I figured that was from using the gauge.. Also N2 will cause a tire to last longer because there is no moisture in the tire.
But I really think the RV mfgs use N2 in some of there tirs is because they are run so close to their weight limit and the pressure remains constant as the tires heat up.
Eh? I lose a pound or so a year too on 78% nitrogen.
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Old 03-17-2015, 02:33 PM   #32
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OC, nitrogen is science, not propaganda, N2 molecules are larger that just air so tires with N2 in them leak less. Mine leaked only about 1 # in a year, I figured that was from using the gauge.. Also N2 will cause a tire to last longer because there is no moisture in the tire.
But I really think the RV mfgs use N2 in some of there tirs is because they are run so close to their weight limit and the pressure remains constant as the tires heat up.
I understand the use and science of N2, it was developed for tires on aircraft. I just don't want the added hassle of finding it when it does so little if any good. And, I don't have tires that are borderline overloaded. It's a lot easier to add air when necessary than find N2. When I check my tires, I always have the air hose/compressor right there. I'm not going to drag the trailer all over to find an N2 filling station. Life is too short. Been driving/towing for 59+ yrs and never needed it.
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:25 PM   #33
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Old 03-17-2015, 04:37 PM   #34
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It has nothing to do with where the tires are made,the issue is the spec they were built to,and the qc at the mfg level.
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Old 03-17-2015, 05:30 PM   #35
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I like the 4 year plan, after we left Goshen last year enjoying some of the baked goods, we got about 2 hours down the road had a blow out, we were just driving along, someone pulls up beside us and told us we had one, had no clue, will not be without tpms again or a bottle Jack or correct tools, the tire wrench that came with our 2010 BR didn't fit the lugnuts not sure what it goes to, tires looked like they had enough tread to go another 5 years, still had another 4 hrs to go home that was along trip home.
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Old 03-17-2015, 05:41 PM   #36
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OK! Sooo, how many folks out there have had blowouts or malfunctions on their TTs with any OTHER than Chinese mfd tires? Specs and QC are indeed the problem. MHO is that those "specs and QC" are a bit more relaxed in China than in America and so is the problem with everything else that I have bought in the last 5 or so years manufactured in China. I've had three inverters, one transfer switch, and several gauges malfunction. All Chinese!
I do believe this is the sole reason thousands of companies have moved there. Why else would all these companies go there?
The only difference between China and Taiwan is a stretch of water. They were once one country. Been to both. Yes, some are built in Taiwan.
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Old 03-17-2015, 05:52 PM   #37
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We bought our used 5w TH last December. According to owner the tires are the original equipment. When I hooked up, they had 45* in them and I aired them up at the storage lot before I moved it. They are Load Star Karrier (235/80 R16 load range D), China and they look great.
But with all I have read for last 5 months, it appears I will be changing them out before we go on a trip.
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These conversations really get old after a while.
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In my years of TTs, the rarest thing I have ever seen was a "slick tire". They, as a general rule, just don't last that long. All of my blowouts have been on tires that looked new with full tread. Looks ain't everything, it's what's inside that counts and you aren't going to see that until after a problem.
If they ever start making STs in America again, I will be standing at the door to get the first set to roll out....regardless the price. Ya gets what ya pays for.
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:25 PM   #40
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These conversations really get old after a while.
Yea they just scare everyone into believing all tires made in China blow out............................. the truth is they don't ............ some do but so does every brand & I still am going to believe a lot are do to road hazards. Like a couple years ago a construction truck lost a case of nails.......30 flats later....


As far as the Nitrogen we had a car (2011 piece of junk) That had nitrofill in the tires We saw no benefit in the 120K miles before the car blew up. The tires wore out just the same as ones with regular air & the fuel mileage was the same (our pockets were just a little lighter paying for the nitrogen) never again. Th e DW & I each drive at least 100 miles a day to & from work.....



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