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Old 05-11-2016, 01:44 PM   #31
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Trust us - its not the tires... its the 1000 + pound slide out sitting on 2 small steel rails and another 400 to 1000 lbs that's sitting in the slide out when you have it extended.
slide out supports were invented to take care of that "Bounce"

just go with the flow and order the supports (several types have been identified. and then let us know how you made out.
slide out supports do not take care of bounce . using them could cause damage to the slide out mechanism . if you put supports under the slide out and the rest of the unit moves you will put great stress on the slide out.
the bounce comes from sitting on springs and tires . there are tt and fiver supports to prevent bounce . jt strong arms for one . if you have good jacks for extra support you can eleminate most if not all bounce . most tt jacks are just stabilizers not designed to support the weight of the tt so adding extra jacks will take the weight off the springs and tires reducing bounce . slide out supports are a no no and will cause damage
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:01 PM   #32
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so if the manufacturer says to support it AKA close the slide out back into the unit for long terms... it is logical that the same would hold for supporting it in an extended position.
That is a gigantic leap in logic. Keeping the slide closed while in storage and using slideout supports are not even close to the same thing.

I stand by my (and many other's) advice to never use them.
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As for the OP, I'm on a permanent site and have been for 5+ years.

My current trailer has 4 separate slides. I've blocked it up using cinder blocks and wood shims underneath the frame only. I have blocks on each of the four corners as well as in front and back of both tires for a total of 8. This along with the JT strong arms that came with the trailer have made it pretty solid. Even with 2 adults, 3 kids and 2 dogs I never feel it bounce.

I still have yet to see documented evidence of any manufacturer suggesting the use of slide-out stabilizers.

I run my slides out in the spring and bring them back in the fall. I'd guess 99% of other permanents do the same thing. Never heard of anyone having a problem doing that.
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As for the OP, I'm on a permanent site and have been for 5+ years.

My current trailer has 4 separate slides. I've blocked it up using cinder blocks and wood shims underneath the frame only. I have blocks on each of the four corners as well as in front and back of both tires for a total of 8. This along with the JT strong arms that came with the trailer have made it pretty solid. Even with 2 adults, 3 kids and 2 dogs I never feel it bounce.

I still have yet to see documented evidence of any manufacturer suggesting the use of slide-out stabilizers.

I run my slides out in the spring and bring them back in the fall. I'd guess 99% of other permanents do the same thing. Never heard of anyone having a problem doing that.

I have basically the same set up as you except the JT Strong Arms and we still get a good amount of movement. I don't feel it when I'm standing in the trailer. Only when sitting on the couch or in bed.
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Old 05-12-2016, 08:04 AM   #35
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I still have yet to see documented evidence of any manufacturer suggesting the use of slide-out stabilizers.
found a Keystone reference (SOB trailer company) reference
KEYSTONE RV COMPANY OWNER'S MANUAL: page 17, Leveling & Slide-Outs: "In extended situations, it is advisable to add support blocks under the slide-out room. Do not raise the room. Just touch the bottom."

Although it states blocks... the key word is "SUPPORT"

I'll use my supports under teh slide outs as well as the factory support jacks under the corners as it actually works to the level of "SUPPORT" that I need it to. It takes teh bounce out which is what someone asked how to accomplish that task.

if the product was not intended for use then millions of campers dollars are being spend on products made by a few companies like UltraFab sold by dozens of companies like E-Trailer and Camping World and Amazon EBay which do not fulfill that promise. why do they sell so many and why is there never a peep about these being fraudulent products?
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MilCop4523, it's your trailer and therefore you can do as you please with it. When you happen to have a tire or tires go flat with the slide(s) supported, you will no doubt have major slide out damage.

My take on it is if the mfg wanted the slides supported, they would furnish the supports. JMHO.

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I'm wondering if the recommendation sheet being spoken of was from Forest River or from the dealer which from the post my guess is CW. I believe when I got a camper from CW I got a sheet of recommendations to purchase as well. If that is the case as a dealership of that type it is my opinion they do not care so much about what is correct or what the manufacturer suggests as much as they try to up sell as much as they can because that is where the huge profits margins are.


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MilCop4523, it's your trailer and therefore you can do as you please with it. When you happen to have a tire or tires go flat with the slide(s) supported, you will no doubt have major slide out damage.

My take on it is if the mfg wanted the slides supported, they would furnish the supports. JMHO.

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thats correct and the great thing everyone has an opinion. the OP asked for opinions/ thoughts on the matter aka advice. they can sift through them and flatten the tires to let air out which they believe is causing the bounce.
million dollar industry in creating a product not recommended by some... makes sense not to use them for some as well.

sort of like Bras some work taking the bounce out and offer support for a few but not all.
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found a Keystone reference (SOB trailer company) reference
KEYSTONE RV COMPANY OWNER'S MANUAL: page 17, Leveling & Slide-Outs: "In extended situations, it is advisable to add support blocks under the slide-out room. Do not raise the room. Just touch the bottom."
Do you have a link for that? Because I'm not seeing it in the one I found.

http://www.keystonerv.com/media/3003...17_revised.pdf
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I too have always heard not to put slide out supports under the slides as damage can result .........................



So if the supports were necessary why does a dealer put the slide out when it comes on the lot and not close them until the purchaser takes it home ??????? The trailer may sit there a long time ............. even over a year ???????? Never seen any dealers put them in ............


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