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Old 10-20-2010, 09:47 PM   #31
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This may sound simple but my brother in-law had the same problem and it was due to not having used his bathroom sink so the trap allowed sewer gasses into his trailer.
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Old 10-20-2010, 09:54 PM   #32
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If toilet holds water in bowl smell cannot enter from interior. Either fantastic fan is drawing odour from roof vent or smell is coming from undr sink breather.
I had awful smell in our trailer and it was worse with fantastic fan running for some reason. Replaced under sink vents and smell went away.
Try replacing them as cost is minimal (kitchen and bath)
Worth a try
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:14 PM   #33
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ohh also check the toilet. mine is a 2 piece. the pedestal is on part and the bowl is another. maybe its loose?
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:15 PM   #34
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If toilet holds water in bowl smell cannot enter from interior. Either fantastic fan is drawing odour from roof vent or smell is coming from undr sink breather.
I had awful smell in our trailer and it was worse with fantastic fan running for some reason. Replaced under sink vents and smell went away.
Try replacing them as cost is minimal (kitchen and bath)
Worth a try
I actually don't hardly ever use the fan for that reason. When you flush with the fan running it pulls air from the vent through the toilet. Make up air for the fan has to come from some where.

Are you keeping your tank at least half full of water after dumping it?

Always put water in the bowl before going, and don't run the fan while flushing.

If you are going to run any fan you should crack a window to provide make up air.

Forget the chemicals and odorizers they make it worse. I don't move my trailer and I dump the black tank about once a week and don't really start having any odor issues till 7-8 days.

Luckly my trailer came with a blank tank rinse hook up and it works quite well. I have a clear adapter and I can see the additional stuff being removed by the rinse. I also use this for putting water back in the tank after I'm done cleaning it. It would take forever trying to put water back in the tank with just water from the toilet.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:39 PM   #35
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I think I see a disconnect here.

I re-read this entire thread several times and I just picked up on the word "pumped" not "dumped" when Blue Eyes talks about emptying the tank.

When we "dump" our tanks we use the low point outlet and shutoff valve on the tank to drain it into the sewer or blue boy wagon. This way (in a perfect world) there should be NO water left in the tank after dumping.

However, When your tank is "pumped" I assume you mean the same way they empty "Johnny on the Spot" portable toilets. The guy comes with a hose and drops it into your toilet and sucks out the tank.

Is that right? Is that how they do it?

If so, perhaps there lies the problem. When he shoves in the hose, the hose could be laying on its side in the tank. If it is a 3 inch diameter hose, the hose will start sucking air when the water level drops below the UPPER side of the hose and lose suction. As far as the operator knows, the tank is "empty", BUT our tanks are only 8 inches or so thick! This could leave quite a bit of liquid behind.

If he tried to get the hose opening flat to the bottom of the tank, the hose would suck itself to the bottom of the tank and not pump at all.
Perhaps a screen cage on the end of the hose might help get more water out.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:55 PM   #36
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if its like herc says, get a plastic barrel, chop the bottom 1/3 off, dumb from the black valve into the barrel and get the guy to suck it out from there. thats what i did when i was parked at the rents.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:23 AM   #37
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We have done both, the dump and the pump...Still end up with the same result, water lying in the bottom of the tank. I cant really say if one left more than the other, I just checked recently on how much was still left in the tank after being pumped...
yes Herk,
you have gotten it correct,,However, I am positive that when WE do the dumping, there is still fluid that is left when we look into the toilet. We ran the water hose, with an attachment that spins the water around, down through the toilet, and up the outlet vent from the outside, the water did seem to run clear, we figured that the problem was solved,,,but after checking the toilet, water was still evident.
I know that alot of the suggestions were about the odor coming from another source, such as the sink, but it is very evident, that the odor is coming from the toilet, as soon as you flush, it is there,,,
I dont have the smell until I flush, I dont use the fantastic fan alot, I do keep the Lil Stanker on at all times, but there was the question as to why when removing the vent cap off of the vent on the roof, there was no smell to be found,,I dont know how many issues we have going on here..A smelly tank for one, and a tank that doesnt completely drain,,for the second problem.
Once again, FR told me there is not a problem with water being left behind, I am not convinced..I dont know if the previous owner created a problem that we are now having to correct, or is this a bad set up..
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:43 AM   #38
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Can you photograph the Black piping from the toilet to the tank? I am having a hard time visualizing the drop. My set up has 2 45 degree elbows in it so I can't see water until it is already up the stack.

Here is what the tanks look like inside the floor:

The right tank (as you look at it) is the black tank. The white hose is the water flush. The larger hole on top is the pipe for the toilet and the smaller one is the stack vent.




I can not imagine a way for there to be that much water left in your tank without a significant blockage at the tank and valve.

I fear at this point you will need to drain the tank as best as you can; mind the snakes; open up the belly covering; unbolt the valve; and look inside the tank.

Another thought is to rent an "in wall" camera and snake it in there and try to see the blockage. I say rent cause they are not waterproof. You could try wrapping a clear plastic bag over the camera lens.

Good Luck
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Old 10-21-2010, 09:54 AM   #39
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I don't think a little water being left in the tank is a big deal as you should be putting much more water back in the tank. Could just be the way your trailer is is sitting that is allowing some water to puddle.

You are leaving your tank closed and partially (1/2) filled with water at all times, correct?

Alot of plumbers have camera too. Could just pay for a service call. Might check your vent line in the wall as well. Could have come apart inside the wall.
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Old 10-21-2010, 10:06 AM   #40
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is it possible you have a sagging tank and there is low spot in the tank that is collecting the water and preventing it from reaching the dump valve?
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