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Old 09-07-2011, 09:10 AM   #31
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Another thing to consider here, is how are the non-converter generators going to affect the electronics in the camper. It is not going to take too many wasted TVs or appliance circuit board replacements to make up the difference in prices.
The model made by Champion is one that has voltage protection built in to it . It is a "new" model made for rving...
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:16 AM   #32
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saw this at Sams yesterday.



in measuring sound, i wonder if they are using the same distance and surroundings (ie same standards). in electronics when ur talking abt power, 3db is a double power gain and is the min change we can hear.
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dretired - I didnt opt for the power start or wheel kit, but it does have the 30-amp RV plug built in. The Honda is quieter for sure, but it depends on when/where you plan on using it. At the track, amongst the other noise makers, the champion seems very quiet. At home when I run it it is quiet. We have not been to other campgrounds that dont have electric, and we dont plan on it. If we do, maybe then I would spend the extra money on the honda. The champion also puts out more watts than the Honda, and will run a 15k ac no issues.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:57 AM   #34
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in measuring sound, i wonder if they are using the same distance and surroundings (ie same standards). in electronics when ur talking abt power, 3db is a double power gain and is the min change we can hear.
so...can i run a/c with one of these ..or would i have to have 2 ??
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so...can i run a/c with one of these ..or would i have to have 2 ??
you'll need two to run the a/c.
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Are you sure? Or does it maybe depend on the A/C unit?

Looking at the specs, it shows a running capacity of 1600 watts. I know my A/C draws 1400 watts; so I was thinking I could run the A/C as long as there was nothing else running.

Or is the running capacity on this inflated a bit?
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you'll need two to run the a/c.
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it may run it but i doubt that it would consistently start it. on the inverter versions, i don't know how much surge capacity they have. u do have the option of chaining 2 together. by then, ur around $1000.

just happened to see it and was surprised how enclosed and compact it was. things have really changed in the past 30 yrs.

as far as noise, i would like to see a direct comparison. sense i have reduced hearing, i would like to see that on a meter. may not be able to compare from memory or different locations within a campground. like to see them side by side and heard from the same location.

for me, a gen doesn't make sense...not enough use. cost of operation also blows me away. i can see it for someone that dry camps though.

this is way off topic but...after hurricane rita, there was a report of someone that woke up to no electricity. he heard the gen running and went out to check it. someone had swamped out his gen for a lawnmower.
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Old 09-07-2011, 11:13 AM   #38
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it may run it but i doubt that it would consistently start it. on the inverter versions, i don't know how much surge capacity they have. u do have the option of chaining 2 together. by then, ur around $1000.

just happened to see it and was surprised how enclosed and compact it was. things have really changed in the past 30 yrs.

as far as noise, i would like to see a direct comparison. sense i have reduced hearing, i would like to see that on a meter. may not be able to compare from memory or different locations within a campground. like to see them side by side and heard from the same location.

for me, a gen doesn't make sense...not enough use. cost of operation also blows me away. i can see it for someone that dry camps though.

this is way off topic but...after hurricane rita, there was a report of someone that woke up to no electricity. he heard the gen running and went out to check it. someone had swamped out his gen for a lawnmower.
That ... takes some nerve... around some places they could have been SHOT !!
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A generator at this point is more of a want than need. Having said that ..Now or sometime in the near future ..l might need one .. not have one ..then get one..And wouldnt you know it...Probably NEVER use it at all ... after that!!!
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A generator at this point is more of a want than need. Having said that ..Now or sometime in the near future ..l might need one .. not have one ..then get one..And wouldnt you know it...Probably NEVER use it at all ... after that!!!
yep...but doesn't a trailer fit the same mold? more than likely i would buy it for a future need and can't find it when needed.

i do have 3 gen, sort of speak, one is a montgomery ward 3k from back in the 70's. one is a welding machine w/ outlets. the other is one bought after rita. think it is 5k w/7k surge. of the three, the later is by far the best on the gas. came in handy after the hurricane. employer supplied gas otherwise that would have been a time consuming commodity.

i put the montgomery ward on an oscilloscope and was surprised to see how noisy the output was. the documation had a procedure for reflashing the armature (it may have been the fields...been too long) in case it set more than a year without use and didn't have enough stray magnetism to get it generating.

i'm wondering if the inverter models are pure sine output or what. has anyone put a scope on it?
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