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02-13-2015, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TURBS
So let's add 500# to the tongue weight of 815 for propane, battery and user added items and we are at 1315#
I think we've found the problem!
And I think my 500# number is low.
We've not added passengers or gear in the denali yet.
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X2, and even in the XL Yukon it would be cutting it close........
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02-13-2015, 12:44 PM
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Site Team
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What kind of wdh do you have?
My dealer doesn't know how to setup a wdh correctly.
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02-13-2015, 01:05 PM
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That was my initial concern so I spoke with the service dept at the dealership. They said that 90% of all w/d hitchs they put on are rated for 800lb tongue weight, and only use the 1000 lb a handfull of times.
Thats why I moved on to other issues besides the overloading the w/d hitch.
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02-13-2015, 01:09 PM
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Unfortunately WD hitches will only aid in an overloading problem, they wont completely fix it.
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02-13-2015, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
So let's add 500# to the tongue weight of 815 for propane, battery and user added items and we are at 1315#
I think we've found the problem!
And I think my 500# number is low.
We've not added passengers or gear in the denali yet.
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Hey,they have already (Disabled/Removed) the Factory Auto Level System,now you are going to Blow out his (P-Metric) tires on this Denali! Youroo!!
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02-13-2015, 05:28 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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If the wdh was setup correctly, he wouldn't have 4" of sag. If he has a 815lbs of dry tongue weight and 1000lb bars, the bars are too light. A properly set up wdh would level car, let alone a Yukon. When the auto level was removed were heavier springs installed in place of the stock ones? This would have been a must without the auto level, otherwise you have the basic suspension of a car and lost most of your payload.
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02-13-2015, 05:30 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaMan
If the wdh was setup correctly, he wouldn't have 4" of sag. If he has a 815lbs of dry tongue weight and 1000lb bars, the bars are too light. A properly set up wdh would level car, let alone a Yukon. When the auto level was removed were heavier springs installed in place of the stock ones? This would have been a must without the auto level, otherwise you have the basic suspension of a car and lost most of your payload.
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Probably a strutmasters kit I'm guessing.
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02-13-2015, 08:56 PM
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Op,
i used air shocks to assist on my wifes old '01 4wd tahoe that was leveled on the front. I never really pulled anything much, but after i leveled the front, the rear would really squat if i hooked up the boat. Most of the time i just pull the boat with my truck, but sometimes when i was pulling the camper, my wife would tow the boat. I don't think i ever added over 50 psi to them and it helped alot.
I'm kinda curious to see how the wifes new Tahoe does with the boat. Of course i haven't customized it......yet
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02-13-2015, 10:00 PM
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Yes, they were strutmasters. Was that a bad decision?
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02-14-2015, 09:22 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jweinzierl
Yes, they were strutmasters. Was that a bad decision?
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No, not at all!
I'd just be curious of the spring weight they sent you.
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02-14-2015, 03:36 PM
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Super springs.com have a few helper options for your vehicle. The sumo springs work great for my Tundra
2014 Stealth Evo 2850 "Woodstock"
2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7 "Clifford"
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02-16-2015, 03:21 PM
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Junior Member
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I'll have to check them out- I've seen them on etrailer.com but Ill check them out at supersprings as well.
Thanks
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02-16-2015, 03:31 PM
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You can always replace the gas shocks with air shocks. All the El Caminos had them and they worked great! Hauled a 1500# slide in over 40,000 miles using only Gabriel air shocks. The mounts were stock and held up just fine.
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02-16-2015, 03:43 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldCoot
You can always replace the gas shocks with air shocks. All the El Caminos had them and they worked great! Hauled a 1500# slide in over 40,000 miles using only Gabriel air shocks. The mounts were stock and held up just fine.
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Nice scooter
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02-16-2015, 10:24 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Big brown desert
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If you have any specific questions, call super springs- super helpful! Even offered an exchange for harder compound if I wasn't happy with their primary product.
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2011 Toyota Tundra Rock Crawler TRD 5.7 "Clifford"
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02-17-2015, 03:15 PM
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Junior Member
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I've had air shocks before in an 83 Monte carlo and got about 6 months each out of two pairs- )always pays to get the lifetime warranty at Autozone)
HondaMan174- Did you order directly from super springs- when I went to their site, it didn't appear that anything could be ordered directly from them. I also saw something in the sumo line that repaces the original bump stop with a composite foam that helps support the springs-looked pretty effective as well.
Might be beneficail to call them and talk through the options.
Thanks,
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02-17-2015, 03:54 PM
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Senior Member
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Give them a call- they will sell direct to you. I went with the sumo spring (bump stop) one which has worked well for me. It took pretty much the entire tongue weight of my trailer as I had an issue with a bracket needing to be welded and drove to friends house without the WDH assist. My ass wasn't on the ground so that's a good thing.
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02-20-2015, 03:14 PM
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Great- Thanks for all the info
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